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    Overuse of Pikachu. Bonus points if it's the starter. Even more bonus points if it's a carbon copy of Ash's Pikachu.

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    Oh, I just thought of this, but one of the things that really bothers me is when trainers walk down the street, and the first person they see becomes their forever best friend travelling buddy (or in some cases, forever hate you rival nyurgh). I get that it'd be boring to talk about everyone else who doesn't become forever best friend or whatever, but it just seems unrealistic that the first person you chance encounter in the grass becomes your fire-hardened friend, right? Or is that just me? XD

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    What about flanderized pokemon? The main characters' pokemon usually have a grand total of one personality trait.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Karpi View Post
    What about flanderized pokemon? The main characters' pokemon usually have a grand total of one personality trait.
    It depends on how the Pokémon are actually depicted. If they're just animals with animal-like intelligence, having only one personality trait is par for the course. If they have human-like intelligence, it's still hard to express those traits without the power of speech.
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    35. Evil team is completely and utterly useless and should by all rights have been killed or fired by chapter 3
    36. Pokemon talks when it shouldn't be able to say anything but its name
    37. Befriends legendary pokemon like it's the easiest thing in the world
    38. Seems to never take a loss hard or sometimes never even lose a match
    39. Never has the Zubat problem everyone else seems to have
    40. Destroys whitney's miltank through OC because it beat the crap out of the writer when they played the games.

    Personally my fan fiction does sometimes fall into a lot of the Cliche's but thankfully I have been able to avoid some of the more idiotic ones, such as the villains being complete idiots.

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    Oh, and I'm adding:
    41. Pokémon say only their names.
    It's not "cute", it's utterly annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne_Darkrose View Post
    36. Pokemon talks when it shouldn't be able to say anything but its name
    This is definitely a case of YMMV. "Pika pika, chu pika!" is one of the weak points of pokemon, and I really don't mind if writers fix it by having the pokemon talk/replacing speech with realistic animal noises.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverwynde View Post
    28. All Ghosts/Dark types are sinister and utterly evil and are always used by the villainous team.
    I find this especially hilarious given how, at least in the games, every Ghost/Dark specialist we've seen has been kind of a jerk or a somewhat dirty fighter at the worst. (The jerk was Agatha, and Grimsley says a few things that are indicative of him being a Combat Pragmatist). Everyone else was just kind of normal, at least by Pokemon world standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karpi View Post
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    36. Pokemon talks when it shouldn't be able to say anything but its name
    This is definitely a case of YMMV. "Pika pika, chu pika!" is one of the weak points of pokemon, and I really don't mind if writers fix it by having the pokemon talk/replacing speech with realistic animal noises.
    Or translating their speech outright but making the one-way language barrier towards humans remain (the trainers understanding them from observing their mannerisms in context).

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiceboxxx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverwynde View Post
    28. All Ghosts/Dark types are sinister and utterly evil and are always used by the villainous team.
    I find this especially hilarious given how, at least in the games, every Ghost/Dark specialist we've seen has been kind of a jerk or a somewhat dirty fighter at the worst. (The jerk was Agatha, and Grimsley says a few things that are indicative of him being a Combat Pragmatist). Everyone else was just kind of normal, at least by Pokemon world standards.
    Actually Morty from Ecruteak Gym is a Ghost Trainer and he was not only courteous, but was pretty chill actually, and as for the dirty fighting, I think he actually fought pretty fairly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne_Darkrose View Post
    Actually Morty from Ecruteak Gym is a Ghost Trainer and he was not only courteous, but was pretty chill actually, and as for the dirty fighting, I think he actually fought pretty fairly.
    I agree.

    Fantina and Shauntal were also pretty nice. Karen is a bit sardonic, but she's not the bitch that the manga portrays her as.

    Some of the "normal" Gym Leaders were kind of nasty too. Clair, a Dragon-type user, was not that nice. Not to mention Whitney, a Normal-type user, who cries when you beat her.

    As for other cliches:

    42. All the bishounen characters are portrayed as gay.
    43. The main character has abusive guardians - often ripped off of something like Cinderella or Harry Potter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne_Darkrose View Post
    Actually Morty from Ecruteak Gym is a Ghost Trainer and he was not only courteous, but was pretty chill actually, and as for the dirty fighting, I think he actually fought pretty fairly.
    I agree.

    Fantina and Shauntal were also pretty nice. Karen is a bit sardonic, but she's not the bitch that the manga portrays her as.

    Some of the "normal" Gym Leaders were kind of nasty too. Clair, a Dragon-type user, was not that nice. Not to mention Whitney, a Normal-type user, who cries when you beat her.

    As for other cliches:

    42. All the bishounen characters are portrayed as gay.
    43. The main character has abusive guardians - often ripped off of something like Cinderella or Harry Potter.
    Yeah, I mostly meant Grimsley and Agatha were the only two that showed any signs of actually being difficult to get along with/fight while everyone else was no worse than most other trainers. Probably should have been a bit clearer there.

    But moving forward: Don't forget that lots of trainers run away because their caretakers forbid them from FOLLOWING THEIR DREAMS~

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    But moving forward: Don't forget that lots of trainers run away because their caretakers forbid them from FOLLOWING THEIR DREAMS~
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    Though by all this standards what methods of starting out a journey aren't considered cliche? xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaze View Post
    Though by all this standards what methods of starting out a journey aren't considered cliche? xD
    Let's have a look at the games:

    -Gold/Silver: You're asked to run an errand for the Professor, and he gives you a Pokemon so that you're safe.
    -HeartGold/SoulSilver: Same as above, only you're also asked to help out with an experiment by seeing how Pokemon respond to staying out of their balls for long periods of time.
    -Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald: Professor Birch gets into trouble and asks you to take one of the Pokemon from his bag to help him out. As a reward, he gives you the Pokemon you picked. Then he sees your potential and asks you to go see his son/daughter to learn more about being a Trainer.
    -The original RBG and DPPt: The professors give you a Pokemon because you were about to step in the tall grass without any protection.

    Somehow I didn't see very many of these in fanfic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Winterdaze View Post
    When the main character has aura powers or is a psychic. It could open up some interesting possibilities, but I have never seen it done well.
    I agree that it's the execution of this one rather than the idea itself that's played out. Also, I never saw any psychic characters in fic being actual Psychic type specialists, despite that being the most logical path (and the one with canon precedence)

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