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    In addition, if you take a cliche and do something new or unexpected with it, it is by definition no longer cliche.
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    I agree with you Topaz, I always believed that one shouldn't run away from cliches, but rather try to improve them. Everything comes from improving something that's been done before, that's how we got iphones and androids that came from large brick like phones back in the 80s, the same applies here, you can use something that's been done before as long as you give it a whole new spin, that's where things like deconstruction or inversion came from.

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    To add a sort of relevant thing, ideas are everywhere, it is the execution that counts.
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    Honestly, some of my best characters are made from re-imagined cliches. One of them is an orphan, so of course, an orphanage was your typical idea. But I decided to change them into a foster kid instead so that I won't repeat the "Little Orphan Annie" cliche.

    Also, this is a pretty general cliche that annoys the hell out of me. I hate it when a villain laughs at the hero's pain, it's just so overused. It's like they're saying, "I'm laughing at your pain, so I'm sadistic and therefore that makes me evil!". It especially bothers me when the villain is some satan-like god monster who laughs out of evilness. I'm okay if it's a more comical and cartoon-ish villain laughing, but not if it's a remake of Satan!
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    To be honest, Aika, my evil team leader in "Pokemon: The Song of Jewels" is loosely based on Jafar from Disney's Aladdin--who has a very distinct evil laugh that Aika can and will channel on a few occasions. But one thing she won't laugh at is Brock, Wendy, and Hibiki in pain--she'd prefer to taunt them and rattle off the advantages (perceived and actual) she has over them at that point.
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    ^Funnily enough, the planned leader of Team Millennium (from Stainless Steel) was also based loosely on Jafar.

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    (Great minds think alike, right?)

    Another cliche that drives me up the wall is angst for angst's sake.
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    When the main character has aura powers or is a psychic. It could open up some interesting possibilities, but I have never seen it done well.

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    I've always interpreted the aura powers as actual magic...so on that note...

    Magic powers for the sake of being cool, without a VERY good reason why they exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LightningTopaz View Post
    Another cliche that drives me up the wall is angst for angst's sake.
    Y'know, I don't actually know what "angst" is. I hear the term all the time, but I don't have a proper definition of it in my head to identify it by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratelier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LightningTopaz View Post
    Another cliche that drives me up the wall is angst for angst's sake.
    Y'know, I don't actually know what "angst" is. I hear the term all the time, but I don't have a proper definition of it in my head to identify it by.
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    Thanks, MegaLugion--that's a great way to put it
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    Being gritty and "mature" in attempt to not seem like the Anime. When really, they're idea of "mature" stems from mindless violence and such. Not that I'm all the squeamish...

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    I've always interpreted the aura powers as actual magic...so on that note...

    Magic powers for the sake of being cool, without a VERY good reason why they exist.
    Well, it's been shown that magic is at least a concept in the series, as some moves have magic as part of the name or description, also the magician from the Jirachi movie (It was fake, but just the fact that he is a magician proves the concept of magic), and the move hex and the Hex trainer class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LightningTopaz View Post
    31. Gym Leader #1 is a carbon copy of Brock, right down to cooking skill and going googoo for the opposite gender
    32. Gym Leader #1 joins the party in a manner similar to how Brock joined the party in Kanto
    33. The party consists of two guys and a girl
    34. Main Guy and Token Girl argue about the stupidest things
    I'd say 33. is common not cliche. 3 is a good number so that its not a horde and its not a couple, and gender you only got 2 options.

    anyway.

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    First pokemon is gained in contrived method where they instantly form a perfect friendship.
    Pokemon lack all emotion and simply act as weapons.

    I admit I got the 3rd one bad right now. I need to get some personalities for my 3 current pokemon.

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