okay, that'd be scary on a scyther
I am quite average actually, and I have no boobs. So no point in stripping ^_^
P2/Dusclops are terrific users of the evolution stone.
Other than that, I don't think it will make all that big of a difference in the URPG, and I don't think it is at all worth banning. Seriously, just do some calculations with it. Not a huge difference maker, in most cases.
I went ahead and made this quick list of Pokemon I think are for sure 'tier 1'.
And then here are some Pokemon I think people would argue for 'tier 1', some maybe by myself:
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I'd say Garchomp, Rhyperior and Kingdra are OU. The list looks good.
I've never seen anyone use smeargle but it has potential for OU, subseed, give it some boosts and sweep could work.
Or Swords Dance, technician, Expert belt priority attacks.
the only wall to kingdra is still empoleon.
Someone wanna teach me to use a swampy?
Tough call to make, based on the fact that OU literally means "Over Used". While something like Aerodactyl or Porygon-Z is definitely good enough, there aren't enough of them to fit the definition. Elite's such as yourself Pidge might all have them, but the majority of the userbase doesnt. However, I fully admit that if we take the term literally then it obviously breaks the whole point of tiering which is to split up Pokemon that, in theory, can't fairly face each other. Unlike Smogon/PO battling, we don't have access to everything we would otherwise use. I agree with your list on the whole, simply suggesting we should perhaphs have our own names for the tiers that actually reflect what they are: basically something along the lines of Awesome/Good/OK/Crap/WTFAREYOUTHINKING?
Take one look at any FFA and I think we can put those damn Kingdras in OU. Probably Garchomp and Swampert too. Maybe I'm a little biased by my position defending Fire, but I see those three come up a lot, despite Swampert continually taking Solarbeams to the face. I'd love to argue in Charizard's favour, but its a tricky Pokemon to use with nearly everything carrying Stone Edge. But if it manages to set up, have fun trying to take it down without a Tyranitar or similar.
Also suggesting Ambipom, always been a pretty reliable lead for me.
The weird thing about Garchomp is... It only gets two unique (not Substitute, Protect, etc.) non-attacking move: Swords Dance and Roar. If you look at the other Pokemon up there, they all can do a bunch of different crap, but the most unpredictable thing you'll get from Garchomp is Sand Veil working. I'm not sure whether predictability matters or not. Garchomp is straightforward, but it still can wreck things.
Rhyperior is pretty similar to Garchomp, but add that is has a worse typing, a decent ability to make up for its bad typing a little, a worse speed, and Rock Polish to help get rid of that speed.
And I think Kingdra is pretty good. What bothers me is that it only has like 4 attacking types: Water, Dragon, Ice, and Hidden Power. Signal Beam doesn't really count since STAB Surf does more than SE Signal Beam... Unless it's like against Exeggutor... Dragon Dance, Yawn, and good typing are what it makes it pretty effective.
Swampert is a jerk to a bunch of Pokemon: Aerodactyl, Dragonite, Garchomp, Gliscor, Jolteon, Rhyperior, Salamence, Scizor, Tyranitar, Weavile. It can switch in on most of those Pokemon without worrying about much damage usually and Roar away their set up or hit them super effective. Access to Yawn and Stealth Rock just make it even more useful. However, it's slow, and that means you can't expect it to really sweep or doing much besides keeping certain Pokemon in line.
I haven't used Charizard, except once or twice in my gym I think (I just finished TM-ing it sort of recently). I imagine in a normal battle, it would come up short easily due to Stealth Rock and it can only set up safely against a few Pokemon, like Metagross and Scizor (and Roserade). However, it has a giant ass movepool for attacking with, three ways to boosts its attack according to the situation (Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, Belly Drum), and 'tech' moves like Roost, Will-o-wisp, and Roar.
I put Ambipom there. I'm tired of editing this, so for now I'll just say Ambipom is annoyingly good.
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No Electrode love?
(3:38:28 PM) [URPG Leaders]: (ojajrrj) TE is trolling
(3:38:32 PM) [URPG Leaders]: (ojajrrj) the leaker has motives
(3:56:16 PM) [URPG Leaders]: (sniperxpwnage) although it's also worth consideration of how we're seemingly pinpointing all the blame towards TE when supposedly, a staff of ours is at fault
(3:56:47 PM) [URPG Leaders]: (imsocorn) Its important that we deal with TE
(4:02:00 PM) [URPG Leaders]: (hkimf) Yes, permanently ban TE.
good, you guys know how to pinpoint the error
Rapidash is the darkhorse of the list.