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    I think WTP is more pointing out that they nearly all have potential in the URPG. His use of Claydol is a pretty good example, I don't think I've ever seen anyone else use it well.

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    Claydol is a pretty good mon IMO, I use it in smogon ubers with some success
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    There's also the tier system Jr and I came up with for the Stik tournament.
    http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89852

    Not perfect but pretty good imo
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    So you are saying that my gym revolves around an OU and a UU mon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pman View Post
    So you are saying that my gym revolves around an OU and a UU mon?
    Are you trying to say Empoleon is OU? It's not
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    I wouldn't call it overused. But it isnt underused. That's best part of the URPG. There's OU Pokemon, yes, but then there's just "everything else". There's room for almost every Pokemon to be useable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monbrey View Post
    I wouldn't call it overused. But it isnt underused. That's best part of the URPG. There's OU Pokemon, yes, but then there's just "everything else". There's room for almost every Pokemon to be useable.
    Obviously

    Which is thy the tier system exists. Empoleon can be used with the right support (agility petaya/hazards/whatever), but it's really not in the same discussion as OU sweepers or even most BL. It's slow, has common weaknesses, and honestly isn't very hard to wall.

    Almost anything can be used in URPG if you're willing to try hard enough. I've swept people with Pinsir and Kingler before, but that doesn't make them OU or even BL. That's the point of tiers; to differentiate what's really good and what isn't.

    Shoddy example - Porygon2 is an awesome check to Gyarados and Salamence because of Trace. Outside of that, it's outclassed, which is why it's NU now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haze View Post
    Obviously

    Which is thy the tier system exists. Empoleon can be used with the right support (agility petaya/hazards/whatever), but it's really not in the same discussion as OU sweepers or even most BL. It's slow, has common weaknesses, and honestly isn't very hard to wall.

    Almost anything can be used in URPG if you're willing to try hard enough. I've swept people with Pinsir and Kingler before, but that doesn't make them OU or even BL. That's the point of tiers; to differentiate what's really good and what isn't.

    Shoddy example - Porygon2 is an awesome check to Gyarados and Salamence because of Trace. Outside of that, it's outclassed, which is why it's NU now.
    You obviously don't battle Gen V. Porygon2 has become quite possibly the best or second best mixed wall in OU. The Evolution Stone will have it OU when tiers are finalized, if they already aren't.

    Tbh, I don't really like the fact that just about anything that incorporates Pokemon battles has at some stage brought up the tiers shit. There is no need for it in the URPG, imo.

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    I'd almost say the Evo Stone is worth banning from some forms of competitive play. Seems like it would have the potential to really make some Pokemon overpowered; ones like Scyther, Electabuzz, and Porygon2 as you mentioned come to mind, those that could already hold their own.

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    Oh, Electabuzz and Scyther? Not as good as Chansey, Dusclops and (very surprisingly) Mischievous Heart Murkrow. There's really no need to ban it though.

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    I might have to try Evo Stone Scyther sometime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    You obviously don't battle Gen V. Porygon2 has become quite possibly the best or second best mixed wall in OU. The Evolution Stone will have it OU when tiers are finalized, if they already aren't.
    And you clearly didn't read my post, which said Porygon2 is NU now. Considering there are no tiers yet for Gen 5, which you said, I obviously didn't mean it was for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synthesis View Post
    Oh, Electabuzz and Scyther? Not as good as Chansey, Dusclops and (very surprisingly) Mischievous Heart Murkrow. There's really no need to ban it though.
    That kinda still follows my point - they were all FE Pokemon in their own right once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haze View Post
    And you clearly didn't read my post, which said Porygon2 is NU now. Considering there are no tiers yet for Gen 5, which you said, I obviously didn't mean it was for that.
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    That kinda still follows my point - they were all FE Pokemon in their own right once.
    True, I didn't realise that to be honest. Still, I don't see any need to ban the evo stone :L

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    Default Re: URPG Tiering system

    What exactly does the Evo stone do?
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