At least you tried.
I think people are made "Officials" for a reason. Let them do their jobs and if they feel we need to know, then they will tell us. Not every private aspect of the URPG needs to be run by us.
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GAH DIDN'T NOTICE THIS UNTIL WAY AFTER I GOT HOME BECAUSE I WAS READING THE GIRL WHO KICKED THE HORNET'S NEST AND HRRR
I do not feel like posting something long and preachy, because in all likelihood it will turn into a satirical story and musical numbers will be thrown into it. So I'll keep this short: Staff should be able to keep things like expansions and large-scale changes to the URPG a secret from regular members until they're ready to present, and that is when we as members can input information. When something is just an idea, and not fully developed, it's much easier to be shot down or turned into something crappy or whatever. It's not like anything's ever just shoved on us, and if it is, we generally are able to bitch about it enough to get it changed (dem FFA rules ;D). The Staff are basically the URPG's government, and this ain't a democracy, kiddo. It is a Pokemon game. Their priority is to make it fun for us, because if we don't like it, we can get up and move somewhere else and there'd be nothing left. They're on your side, we are family, and all that trash.
tl;dr quit 'yer bitchin', it's not like this was a personal affront, and it's nothing new. Everything is fine.
EDIT: To appease the rest of you
I would pick the chick if she could shoot electricity out of her.
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I speak four languages, help me practice please
Hablas conmigo en español, por favor
Vous parlez avec moi en français, s'il vous plaît
I can't help but laugh at what I finished reading.
Laughter is good medicine, so let's all rejoice in something funny that has happened to us/or someone else at some point in our/their lives.
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Questions/Comments/Concerns --> Imperialpineaple on aim.
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I have done it both ways, multiple times
And always get complaints either way
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MK quit complaining. Being staff is a lot harder than you think it is, especially when you have to put up with shit from people like you who think they could do the staff's job better.
Also I love Alaska.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going back into hibernation.
@Dog of Hellsing I thought we sorted it out over AIM. That was pretty pointless to come and stir it all up again. :/
Like I said, me and T_T talked over AIM. The point I was TRYING to make is that URPG members were kept so in the dark about it, that when TPW announced that we were expanding, that was all we had to go by. And you're trying to tell me that if you read the exact line "The URPG is heading our way!" AND that every mod and official had already been promoted on TPW that you WOULDN'T jump to conclusions?
Yes, that was a misunderstanding on my part. However, like I've said before, this is not the first time something like this has happened.
People have brought up the issue of the staff boards before. Heck, even mods, officials and the head ref said that they thought the staff could discuss more in public. Because although being secretive may not be your intention, that's certainly what it feels like (protip: that's all I ever said. Don't twist my words)
And ok, yeah, don't take suggestions from the members straight away, but at least let us know what the hell's going on so we don't have to rely on people leaking stuff to tumblr, or surprise announcements from TPW. The only reason I've been given that this was kept a secret was "We didn't want to get your hopes up and then you all be let down" - I'd seriously hope the people of the URPG wouldn't let a failed expansion get them all depressed. It would be a "Ok, we tried and nothing came out of it. So when's the next tourney coming out?"
Stinky, I never said I could do the staff's job better. I just don't see how much of a burden it is to let us know what's going on? Is it seriously going to collapse the entirety of the staff to just have a thread entitled something like "Goings-on in the URPG", and have staff members routinely post (heck, even if it was just a weekly update) stuff that's being discussed. Y'know, like the very thread on TPW that caused this all. It doesn't have to be a "c/p the meeting so everyone can see everything", but just a little "Ok, we're looking into the possibility of an expansion. Nothing is concrete yet, so don't start getting your hopes up." and then maybe "We've made a bit of progress and have a couple of possible candidates for expansion. Still nothing solid." THEN reveal to us with the flair that you wanted that TPW have accepted us, and open it up to member input.
Disagreeing with something and fighting because you think changing it would be for the better =//= bitching/raging/whatever else you want to call it. I've never just gone "THE MODS SUCK LOLOLOLOL", but I've put suggestions forward because, hey, did you ever think maybe I'm NOT just trying to take over the staff and have everything done to please me, but maybe I'm actually trying to help? It's just kinda hard when no-one's actually commenting on your suggestions, just using "being a mod is tough" as an excuse and leaving it at that. I'm not saying that being a mod ISN'T tough, but it'd be nice to know exactly what is SO TOUGH that my suggestions aren't plausible.
~The Artist Formerly Known As PichuBoy~
"Request to combine Contest Stats (Cool/Beauty/Tough/Cute/Smart/Luster) with normal Battle Stats. Approved by majority.
Request to add a Gym-Leader-esque system for the Contest Board with ten Leaders. Trial of 5 approved by majority, ATF to work out specifics.
Request for new addition to the Park; Mystery Zone. Approved.
Request for Endurance Runs to be implemented in Main RPs. Approved. Dog of Hellsing will work out specifics."
All those, I fail to see why they couldn't be Trainer's Court topics.
I'm active - I'm on every day that I can be. It just seems I've missed this entire thing that's gone around, since the first I heard about it was TE's post in this thread. Sure, I'd heard rumours about an expansion, but nothing mentioning TPW.Although we hadn't announced it at that time, members from here have been making accounts over there since January so I am not really sure how that is much of a surprise anymore unless you aren't active. Just my opinion on that though.
You're my favourite official at the moment. You didn't just resort to "I'm a mod, I know better, stfu bitching", but you actually listened. But, I already said what I thought could've been public, especially based on the posts by officials I linked in my previous post.I don't see a problem with that, in fact, if it will satisfy you, I will inquire about having that set up. Like I said though, nothing but expansion has been talk about that needs to be known by the public, and we aren't even sure where we are going besides TPW.
~The Artist Formerly Known As PichuBoy~
And about the not letting people's hopes down thing, it's more about announcing just about everything that is unconfirmed, like for this case, the expansion of URPG to other forums, and having people hyped and assuming it is confirmed for nothing. For example, I announce that we are planning for an expansion to Pe2k but we have yet to receive a reply, then people start swarming another forum and make random posts about the URPG, it's going to create the sort of unnesscessary commotion and disturbance.
I do agree with you that we need to reconsider our approach to supposedly 'staff boards' topics. In the past, many things in the Staff boards were not discussed openly (I believe) but times have changed. We understand that the members want to get involved in URPG matters and have a say, or at least have their comments and opinions reviewed, and it is not a bad thing at all. I believe we will, and we should, consider your suggestion.
That aside, I hope all of us can maintain the friendly and mature attitude in handling or discussing this issue.