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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim Gwanjangnim View Post
    Yeeeeah! Liberality is sooooo awesome! You can do whatever you want, marry whatever you want, kill whatever you want (considering it's inside your belly, but it's also gonna change soon) and flame whoever thinks that it's wrong! Yay liberal! Morality is for old codgers!
    Strawman, much?

    "Marry whatever you want?" No, really not. No (or at least very, very, very few) liberal is in favor of marrying 10 years old, or marrying animals, or marrying robots. We're for the state not telling informed, consenting adults that they can't do something that affects no one else.

    "Gonna change soon"? IT's already there, it's called death penalty, and it's a conservative thing. As for anything else, hah. Liberals may, at most, wind up supporting euthanasia, and even then we're not sure we do. And even if we do, for crying out loud: euthanasia is about letting people that are already dead (and expressed prior to that the wish to not be artificially maintained forever), or who actively want to die, die. Yeah, we liberals are big bad evil murderer for not being sure we should force people that want out to remain in this world. (Meanwhile, you conservatives are hanging, frying, poisoning or otherwise removing anybody that's been condemned, no matter how often it's been shown that your trial system is flawed and has resulted in dead innocents).

    Moral?

    Ah, yes, of course. We liberals are all dangerous hippies. We smoke weed all the time, we get drunk all the time (...wait, I thought Joe Six-Packs was on the other side of the aisle?), we fornicate with everything that moves (and some things that don't), and damn the results, we're going to mass-murder them anyway! WHOOO, go, ammoral libruhls!

    ...bull.

    About the only difference in moral rules between you and I is that you believe you are such a righteous and good person that everyone should follow your moral rules. After all, you are a Good and Righteous man! Whereas I think that "Do unto others" (you know. The keystone of three-quarters of moral systems out there) naturally imply "Live and let live" - you wouldn't want to be forced to live by someone else's moral, so don't try to force someone else to live by yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shedinjask View Post
    Technically a person could get a sex change, enabling them to make that choice.

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    Technically no. A man can't just go to a doctor and say "I'd like to be a woman now" and walk out of the hospital a female.

    It takes years of therapy, hormone pills and a lot of money before a doctor will perform that procedure. Plus, there are only a few doctors that even do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim Gwanjangnim View Post
    Yeeeeah! Liberality is sooooo awesome! You can do whatever you want, marry whatever you want, kill whatever you want (considering it's inside your belly, but it's also gonna change soon) and flame whoever thinks that it's wrong! Yay liberal! Morality is for old codgers!
    Hmm...I'm going to say someone has been watching too much Fox News lately >.>

    Well just because you are Liberal, doesn't mean you want "kill what ever you want" Being Pro-Choice means you trust the person to make a mature decision based on the circumstances.

    As for morality, do you want me to start lining up the Human/Constitutional Rights violations of the US Bush/Republican Conservative administration for the past 8 years? (Or 5 years of Republican Control of Congress?)

    I'm not flaming, just showing the facts and balancing your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by $aturn¥oshi View Post
    Technically no. A man can't just go to a doctor and say "I'd like to be a woman now" and walk out of the hospital a female.

    It takes years of therapy, hormone pills and a lot of money before a doctor will perform that procedure. Plus, there are only a few doctors that even do that.
    It also takes a lot of money and time to go from birth to eighteen years old.

    Also Max please refrain from being an idiot. Protip: start by laying out intelligent arguments instead of strawmen.
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    I know this is from a while ago, I was just reading through the thread and saw this

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    I don't really have an opinion over whether two men or two women engage in some form of committed relationship that offers them benefits from the state, but for the love of God, let the church decide what's called "marriage" or not. Marriage is a religious concept, so for the sake of separation of church and state, the state shouldn't be deciding what a "marriage" is, civil unions yes, marriage no.
    Matrimony=Religious. Its a Sacrament, at least in the christian church. and you have to be confirmed.


    Marriage=Not Religious. It can be done at any town hall, public place, etc
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    Very true. In the Netherlands, for example, a marriage is a civil affair, and church weddings are optional. Also, if you are going to define marriage as a religious institution, then whose religion are you going by?

    And don't throw that "Christian Nation" nonsense at me. Read the Bill of Rights, specifically the First and the Ninth.

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    I voted yes it's absolutely ridiculous that gay people can not get married. Truly if God didn't like gay people he wouldn't have made gay people. Also as others have said the bible was written by men and used as an oppressive force to convert people using fear. The one thing in the bible about being gay is taking out of connect especially after being translated over and over and given the time period that it was written in. It's just as bad to eat shrimp and wear cotton-poly blends or have a vegetable gardens. Why do we get to pick and choose. Also Christianity has change many things over the years. Back in the early days of Christianity they actually had a special marrigae ritual for gay men.

    The fact that marriage is a legal contract enacted by the state is the true issue. Gay people can be denied the basic right to visit their partner in the hospital. They do not get the same tax benefits as straight couples do. The also don't get spousal confidentiality during court hearings either.

    Gay marriage affects no one but gay people.

    Also the people say u can't really be gay is ridiculous. It's not a choice like when do u sit down and be like i think I'll be gay it doesn't work like that. Everyone here knows what happens when u see someone u r attracted to you feel it before u can think. We are all the same that way. People are people. We spend too much time looking at what is different when we should realize we are on big human family.

    Also right now we should focus on real problems like our economy. Let gay people all over the country get married and see if that doesn't boost it lol. What gay man can't through a party and with the ability to do that with all ur friends and family, flower arrangments, church bookings, food, hair, clothes, banquet halls, just to name a few.

    And the people who are like a penis goes in a vagina, I can't remember the last wedding i was at where the reverand said do you take this penis for your vagina. The ask if you will love and cherish each other. Those who think marriage is all about sex, you scare me and you think we're weird. Live and let live people. Remeber it says liberty and justice for ALL not some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchboi View Post
    Also right now we should focus on real problems like our economy. Let gay people all over the country get married and see if that doesn't boost it lol. What gay man can't through a party and with the ability to do that with all ur friends and family, flower arrangments, church bookings, food, hair, clothes, banquet halls, just to name a few.
    That's true. They don't give Mass in Latin anymore.

    You do have a point with the tax benefits, especially if one of them, is like a stay at home kind of person.

    I agree that people should focus on the economy more.


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    Support strongly.
    I'm bisexual, so yeah.
    I've never seen whats wrong with it.

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    I'm all for gay marriage. Equal rights FTW.

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    I think that gay marriage is okay. While people may try to argue that it violates their religion, American law requires a separation of church and state. This means that just because one person believes gay marriage is wrong, they can't use their religion as an excuse to impose their beliefs on someone who doesn't follow that religion.

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    i agree with DCM on this one. marriage is no longer considered a religious ceremony. it is a civil service, and therefore cannot be dictated by any religion if we are to maintain a secular government. anyone who disagrees gets FLAMED.
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    I absolutely support gay marriage.

    I see absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be allowed. If two people love each other, then they have every right to get married if that's what they want, be it two males, two females, or a male and a female.

    Really, it isn't harming anyone, and it honestly isn't as big a deal as so many people make it seem.

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    it's all the stereotyping from the 50's and 60's that the only thing gay people do with their lives is try to rape little kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insana Dana View Post
    If two people love each other, then they have every right to get married
    I'm not arguing against gay marriage here, I think it should be allowed because it's not a huge deal. But the same argument could be used to defend incest too so it doesn't really hold water...

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