Thread: Underwater Ruins deciphered

Originally Posted by Hyperion09

The translated messages in the English version are exactly as what's already written on the 'pedia. Seems TPCi has a love affair with the word "literal"...

Redactions with exact number of circles (White 2 English):
King defeated ●●●●● alone
●●●●● joined King in a day
King called ●●●●● beings
King is hope and future
The great King ●●●●●●●●

I don't know what to make of the number of circles; five letters is too short to be any of the Unova legendaries. But the fact that the translators didn't bother to alter the original version makes me doubt their thoroughness. Eight letters is long enough for 'Harmonia', but that is not even a first name.

Huh, hard to believe it's been nearly two years since this thread was made... Where did the time go?

Originally Posted by Silktree

I don't know what to make of the number of circles; five letters is too short to be any of the Unova legendaries. But the fact that the translators didn't bother to alter the original version makes me doubt their thoroughness. Eight letters is long enough for 'Harmonia', but that is not even a first name.

Perhaps Harmonia really was the king's name, but Ghetsis appropriated it as a last name for himself and N to signify their eventual rulership over Unova...? IIRC, the number of characters for "Harmonia" does match the five blanked out ones from the Japanese version.

Originally Posted by Zistal

Perhaps Harmonia really was the king's name, but Ghetsis appropriated it as a last name for himself and N to signify their eventual rulership over Unova...? IIRC, the number of characters for "Harmonia" does match the five blanked out ones from the Japanese version.

Yes, 'Harmonia' is five characters long in Japanese. But isn't it too feminine for a first name? This is a non-issue compared to the other blanked out names, anyway. Zinzolin does imply that the king has a descendant with similar powers (the ability to talk to all creatures and read the future), and N supposedly fits the bill (although I'd argue that we haven't seen proof of those powers).

Is it possible that the Abyssal Ruins are actually unrelated to Unova? Did they get moved? Zinzolin implies a relation to Unova since he states that the missing names may be inferred from the context, but that's a questionable statement. The version-dependence of the special characters was the main argument for Reshiram and Zekrom being involved, but that evidence doesn't present itself in B2W2.

Okay so 3 could mean Reshiram, Zekrom, & Kyurem.
4 could mean the four swords of justice (Cobalion, Virizion, Terrakion, & Keldeo: Referring to the movie: Kyurem V.S. The Sword of Justice)
The 5: ???
And the king is most likely N