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    Default Two new moves discovered in the game's RAM dump - related to Zygarde?

    Thousand Waves: Ground, Base Power 90, 100 Accuracy, Physical Attack. The user attacks with a wave that crawls along the ground. Those hit can't flee from battle.

    Thousand Arrows: Ground, Base Power 90, 100 Accuracy, Physical Attack. This move also hits opposing Pokémon that are in the air. Those Pokémon are knocked down to the ground.



    Something to note: Land's Wrath is also a Ground type physical attack with 90 base power. Could these be the signature moves of Zygarde's form (or forms)? Seems pretty likely to me.

    The effects of the moves do sound like they will be really good moves too (except their names are a bit... strange).


    Thousand Arrows - AttackDex - Serebii.net
    Thousand Waves - AttackDex - Serebii.net



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    Default Re: Two new moves discovered in the game's RAM dump - related to Zygarde?

    Seems like they could possibly be moves for Zygarde, perhaps for the third Kalos game( or released on an event Zygarde later)

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    Thousand Arrows: Ground, Base Power 90, 100 Accuracy, Physical Attack. This move also hits opposing Pokémon that are in the air. Those Pokémon are knocked down to the ground.

    So a ground-type move that can hit flying-types? Or just pokemon with Levitate or holding an Air Balloon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Celebi View Post
    Seems like they could possibly be moves for Zygarde, perhaps for the third Kalos game( or released on an event Zygarde later)
    Didn't think about an event Zygarde; that might end up being the case. I do think they are most definitely related to Zygarde.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norzan View Post
    Thousand Arrows: Ground, Base Power 90, 100 Accuracy, Physical Attack. This move also hits opposing Pokémon that are in the air. Those Pokémon are knocked down to the ground.

    So a ground-type move that can hit flying-types? Or just pokemon with Levitate or holding an Air Balloon?
    Sounds like it hits all of Flying, Levitators and Balloon holders. Basically a Ground type attack with no immunities.
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    Yeah Zygarde may have just found its way into the Uber tier. Cool find @Zeb
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    A third event move has been discovered, called Hold Hands.
    No idea what it does, maybe a Splash Clone.
    It only works in doubles, and an ally is targeted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnybodyAgrees View Post
    A third event move has been discovered, called Hold Hands.
    No idea what it does, maybe a Splash Clone.
    It only works in doubles, and an ally is targeted.
    So its basically another Helping Hand
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraTF View Post
    Yeah Zygarde may have just found its way into the Uber tier. Cool find @Zeb
    why do you say this? At best, if Thousand Waves is a trapping move he may move up to OU, but his stats wouldn't really support that. Not sure thousand arrows would even be worth using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TerraTF View Post
    Yeah Zygarde may have just found its way into the Uber tier. Cool find @Zeb
    why do you say this? At best, if Thousand Waves is a trapping move he may move up to OU, but his stats wouldn't really support that. Not sure thousand arrows would even be worth using.
    Thousand Arrows would negate an entire types Immunity. People would carry Zygarde on their team just for the purpose of easily defeating an opponent's Talonflame, Charizard-Y, Pokemon with Levitate, or a Pokemon holding an Air Balloon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraTF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TerraTF View Post
    Yeah Zygarde may have just found its way into the Uber tier. Cool find @Zeb
    why do you say this? At best, if Thousand Waves is a trapping move he may move up to OU, but his stats wouldn't really support that. Not sure thousand arrows would even be worth using.
    Thousand Arrows would negate an entire types Immunity. People would carry Zygarde on their team just for the purpose of easily defeating an opponent's Talonflame, Charizard-Y, Pokemon with Levitate, or a Pokemon holding an Air Balloon.
    I imagine it would work more like mold breaker than completely canceling it, even after switching out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post
    I imagine it would work more like mold breaker than completely canceling it, even after switching out.
    Thousand Arrows: Ground, Base Power 90, 100 Accuracy, Physical Attack. This move also hits opposing Pokémon that are in the air. Those Pokémon are knocked down to the ground.
    Most like Smack Down, but broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post
    why do you say this? At best, if Thousand Waves is a trapping move he may move up to OU, but his stats wouldn't really support that. Not sure thousand arrows would even be worth using.
    More than likely, Zygarde will be getting the Kyurem treatment and have new forms or Mega Evolutions and a stat increase to go along with them. Zygarde's current BST will most likely not be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerraTF View Post

    Thousand Arrows: Ground, Base Power 90, 100 Accuracy, Physical Attack. This move also hits opposing Pokémon that are in the air. Those Pokémon are knocked down to the ground.
    Most like Smack Down, but broken.
    I'm trying to think of who this would affect most. Rotom Wash, to a degree, Thundurus (both), Gengar and Ho-oh would affected, is there anything else significant I'm missing? I really don't see this as super game breaking.

    hard to theorymon on new forms without knowing anything bout them, so I think talking about them really doesn't help.
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    Definitely Pokémon Z version. If they make Pokémon X2Y2, I will suck my toy horse.

    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TerraTF View Post

    Thousand Arrows: Ground, Base Power 90, 100 Accuracy, Physical Attack. This move also hits opposing Pokémon that are in the air. Those Pokémon are knocked down to the ground.
    Most like Smack Down, but broken.
    I'm trying to think of who this would affect most. Rotom Wash, to a degree, Thundurus (both), Gengar and Ho-oh would affected, is there anything else significant I'm missing? I really don't see this as super game breaking.

    hard to theorymon on new forms without knowing anything bout them, so I think talking about them really doesn't help.
    Zapdos, Moltres, Crobat etc.
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    Default Re: Two new moves discovered in the game's RAM dump - related to Zygarde?

    I don't see how these games necessarily mean a third version over a sequel (or even something new)--simply suggests Zygarde (being the best candidate for these moves) is going to get a bit more relevance in a new game.

    I'm going to assume that the strange names are related to whatever myth ties to the legendary that uses these moves.

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