Thread: Speculation: Pokémon Black 3 and White 3

I have to admit, a Wii RPG game wrapping up all the loose plot threads of B/W would be pretty nice.

But it also sounds too good to be true. Gamefreak probably wouldn't be able to get that right, either.

Originally Posted by smalllady

I have to admit, a Wii RPG game wrapping up all the loose plot threads of B/W would be pretty nice.

That seems like stretching it.

Originally Posted by matt0044

That seems like stretching it.

This whole topic is stretching it.

Originally Posted by smalllady

Originally Posted by matt0044

That seems like stretching it.

This whole topic is stretching it.

Touche.

I have NOT played nor read plot spoilers for B2W2, but I doubt they'd go for a B3W3 game... Too many fans would get annoyed about it. And Gamefreak have never done this kinda thing before... I honestly think R/S/E remake is more likely at this point in time.

Originally Posted by Takoto

And Gamefreak have never done this kinda thing before...

Haha, isn't that the point?

Gamefreak have been doing lots of things lately that were never done before.

Originally Posted by smalllady

I have to admit, a Wii RPG game wrapping up all the loose plot threads of B/W would be pretty nice.

But it also sounds too good to be true. Gamefreak probably wouldn't be able to get that right, either.

Yeah, I would like that more than the idea of BW3. Having it focus on Triple/Rotation battles, with the final climax of the game being a battle with you controlling all of the Tao Trio, but there I go rambling again. :p

There won't be a BW3, nor a Grey. I'm just as disappointed as a lot are that things aren't really concluded in BW2, but they can't really do anything more with Unova that they already haven't done. At best, Generation 6 could tie up some things like introducing the Original Dragon and Genesect's ancient fossil state, have an N cameo and a few other references, but thats all I'm expecting.

So regarding the "unresolved" Plasma plot, here's the Shadow Triad's quote post-game ( @bluesun's translation)

"Lord Ghetsis won't do anything anymore... no, he can't do anything anymore! So fight us, who cannot forgive you!"
"I will beat you! That is the only way to recover his lost spirit!"
"We fight for our Lord Ghetsis! That alone is the reason I am alive!"
"We Dark Trinity have been, are, and always will be Lord Ghetsis's faithful disciples!"

So basically, he's been handed the same fate as HgSs Giovanni. He was defeated once, but came out of it alright, and even planned to return. Being defeated a second time shattered his spirit. Must be even worse since Ghetsis got beat when he had control of an even stronger Legendary than the Twin dragons, by a trainer who didn't even own a single legendary (kind of makes me think I should use Keldeo, but that damn pony is still pissing me off with its useless form)

Originally Posted by The Outrage

So basically, he's been handed the same fate as HgSs Giovanni. He was defeated once, but came out of it alright, and even planned to return. Being defeated a second time shattered his spirit. Must be even worse since Ghetsis got beat when he had control of an even stronger Legendary than the Twin dragons, by a trainer who didn't even own a single legendary (kind of makes me think I should use Keldeo, but that damn pony is still pissing me off with its useless form)[/spoiler]

Not bad. At least unlike Giovanni, Ghetsis made a proper comeback. Though he deserves more than just a shattered spirit (like a good wallop from Hue). Well, as long as he's not up to no good anymore, Unova's safe. Plus, the Shadow Triad's loyalty to Ghetsis really intrigues me. Maybe this'll be explored in Gen 6 and the Triad came from the next region (or possibly hinted at). It'd be cool to have NINJAS as the next evil team's motif.

I'm pretty sure the Shadow Triad are loyal to Ghetsis for the same reason N wanted to give him a chance to turn away from his ambitions, and why he calls him father while Ghetsis is calling him a monster. People say N is stupid, but really, he's just incredibly kind, and I think like the Shadow Triad, is grateful that Ghetsis took them in when no one else would. Sure, he was using him, but no other person was willing to help a young child simply because he could talk to Pokemon.

So Looker never gets to take Ghetsis in, and Ghetsis gets to be a Karma Houdini once again.

Originally Posted by smalllady

So Looker never gets to take Ghetsis in, and Ghetsis gets to be a Karma Houdini once again.

I don't see how not being arrested is different from any other bad guy. Besides, Zinzolin was captured and released in BW >_>

However, I wouldn't call him a Karma Houdini. We can tell from that dialogue that Ghetsis is essentially psychologically shattered. Being taken into prison really wouldn't add anything when you think about it. Shattered as a free man hidden from the world by the Shadow Triad, or shattered as a prisoner. His entire life work was basically undone by random children, and he was betrayed by two people who he trusted to run his team (N and Achroma).

Really, what happened to him seems equivalent to what happened to Azula in Avatar: The Last Airbender. Azula wasn't taken to jail, she was taken to a psych ward because of her mental state. Sure, saying he "lost his spirit" doesn't seem that big, but look at the first line, they say he won't and he can't do anything anymore. That's the kind of state the PC left him in. And when we look at his villainous breakdown with N, it's likely his sanity snapped.

Oh well, silly me for overestimating him, then. I guess he turned out to be a paper tiger.

If anyone is a Karma Houdini, it's kind of Achroma.

He pretty much helps kill people (more or less, in a non-E game there would've been deaths from freezing an entire town) in the name of science and just because, and then goes "ooops, lol, I guess I made a mistake" without any real remorse. I consider that kind of cool, objective villainy to be worse than Ghetsis who at least is evil due to ambition.

Atleast that's the impression I get from translations.

Originally Posted by smalllady

Oh well, silly me for overestimating him, then. I guess he turned out to be a paper tiger.

He did work this plan for approximately 20 years, and even had a back up when it didn't work out the first time, only to be foiled again. Your entire life's work is thrown down the drain. I think you're underestimating the kind of effect that would have on a person.