Thread: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

Originally Posted by XXASHXX

Yeah there are 10 people in Black City. How do I get them out of there XD? Note I have tried messing with the time to reset both areas XD. That did not work. I think both areas are locked but not sure. I have not been there since Saturday afternoon. How long does it take for everything to reset if I don't enter either area? I have tried checking without saving but that does nothing apparently XD.:)

The Bulbapedia articles for Black City and White Forest have some more information on them, but the gist of it is that each trainer has a certain assigned number value. The number goes down by 5 every calendar day, goes up by 3 for entering the area, and up by another 10 for interacting with the trainer. They leave the area when their value hits 0. Long story short, the fastest way to get them to leave is to not enter the area for a good stretch of time. That being said, their net value will go down even if you enter the area (as long as you don't interact with them), but it will take longer for them to go.

Originally Posted by RiverAura

For the new Mystery Dungeon coming out in the US next week, does anyone know if the DLC works with the physical copy of the game, or do you have to purchase the digital copy in order to use the DLC?
Similarly, can the demo data be transferred to either copy, or only to the digital one?

OK, so I did a bit more research, and found that the demo data can be transferred to either the physical or digital copy, but I still don't know about the DLC. Anyone with the Japanese games know if the DLC works with their physical cartridge copy?

Originally Posted by RiverAura

Originally Posted by XXASHXX

Yeah there are 10 people in Black City. How do I get them out of there XD? Note I have tried messing with the time to reset both areas XD. That did not work. I think both areas are locked but not sure. I have not been there since Saturday afternoon. How long does it take for everything to reset if I don't enter either area? I have tried checking without saving but that does nothing apparently XD.:)

The Bulbapedia articles for Black City and White Forest have some more information on them, but the gist of it is that each trainer has a certain assigned number value. The number goes down by 5 every calendar day, goes up by 3 for entering the area, and up by another 10 for interacting with the trainer. They leave the area when their value hits 0. Long story short, the fastest way to get them to leave is to not enter the area for a good stretch of time. That being said, their net value will go down even if you enter the area (as long as you don't interact with them), but it will take longer for them to go.

Originally Posted by RiverAura

For the new Mystery Dungeon coming out in the US next week, does anyone know if the DLC works with the physical copy of the game, or do you have to purchase the digital copy in order to use the DLC?
Similarly, can the demo data be transferred to either copy, or only to the digital one?

OK, so I did a bit more research, and found that the demo data can be transferred to either the physical or digital copy, but I still don't know about the DLC. Anyone with the Japanese games know if the DLC works with their physical cartridge copy?

Yeah I know that part XD. I don't know what each trainers values are though. I heard that if you change the clock at any time you can actually lock the areas and the only way to unlock them is to wait several days to let the areas reset. How do we know what their maximum values can be? If we can find out what they can be then I will know exactly how long to wait XD.:)

I saw on Bulbapedia that the move Metronome never calls on Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Secret Sword, Techno Blast, and V-Create to be used.

Is there any logical explanation for this?

Originally Posted by Shiny Shinx

I saw on Bulbapedia that the move Metronome never calls on Freeze Shock, Ice Burn, Secret Sword, Techno Blast, and V-Create to be used.

Is there any logical explanation for this?

Presumably because they're very powerful signature moves of various legendary Pokémon. Freeze Shock and Ice Burn are moves that only came about through the amalgam of Kyurem and Zekrom or Reshiram, not common knowledge moves. Secret Sword is, well, a secret. Techno Blast was created using technology and V-Create is a very special event move. Logically, those moves aren't called because they are either mythical, were made by recent in-game technology or were part of the mythical joining of Kyurem with Zekrom / Reshiram.

What are the pros and cons of not letting your Pokemon evolve? I heard at one point that they level faster at a lower evolutionary stage. What have you heard? Specifically in reference to Pokemon White

Originally Posted by PiroNeko

What are the pros and cons of not letting your Pokemon evolve? I heard at one point that they level faster at a lower evolutionary stage. What have you heard? Specifically in reference to Pokemon White

The rate of EXP gain has nothing to do with what evolution stage they're at. It mostly depends on what level they are. The article about experience points goes into more detail about what determines the growth rate of a Pokemon

One advantage is that Pokemon that evolve by leveling up will learn all their moves sooner than their evolved counterparts, while those that evolve by evolution stones can only learn their good moves before evolving. One disadvantage is that they'll have lower stats than their evolved counterparts. Although in Gen V, you can use an Eviolite to boost a not fully evolved Pokemon's defense and special defense stats by 50%.

Originally Posted by XXASHXX

Yeah I know that part XD. I don't know what each trainers values are though. I heard that if you change the clock at any time you can actually lock the areas and the only way to unlock them is to wait several days to let the areas reset. How do we know what their maximum values can be? If we can find out what they can be then I will know exactly how long to wait XD.:)

Unfortunately, I don't believe there's a way to know a trainer's current value, so you just need to keep checking back every once in a while to see if they've left. As for the maximum value, I am not aware of one myself, but I'd assume it couldn't be any higher than 255 for the sake of coding. They may have even set it to a lower number like 100, but I am not sure.

Originally Posted by PiroNeko

What are the pros and cons of not letting your Pokemon evolve? I heard at one point that they level faster at a lower evolutionary stage. What have you heard? Specifically in reference to Pokemon White

The main advantage to not evolving Pokémon is that lower evolutionary stages learn some moves faster than their evolutions (for example, Snivy learns Leaf Storm at Lv. 43, while Servine learns it at Lv. 52 and Serperior doesn't learn it until Lv. 62). There are also some moves that only the lower evolutions will learn by level up (this is especially true in evolutions involving evolutionary stones, or evolutions which change a Pokemon's types).

A few other Pokémon are viewed as useful competitively in a lower evolutionary stage, especially in tandem with the item Eviolite (Porygon2, for example, is a much better tank than PorygonZ).

Other than those two things, though, I don't believe there are any other big advantages to evolving a Pokémon later. Evolution doesn't affect experience rates or EV training.

Originally Posted by PiroNeko

What are the pros and cons of not letting your Pokemon evolve? I heard at one point that they level faster at a lower evolutionary stage. What have you heard? Specifically in reference to Pokemon White

Other than learning moves a little faster, there's not much benefit. There may be a bracket of levels where it levels faster because of experience group, but this will be countered with a lull in another bracket of levels (as far as I know). The best way to figure this out is to check out what experience group the Pokémon you're raising in is and use that to see if it's worth your while holding off on evolution.

However, take Foongus and Amoongus for example: Foongus and Amoongus are in different experience groups, but it still takes 1,000,000 experience points to raise either one to level 100.

The difference would hardly be noticeable overall though, in my opinion.

Great, thanks! :)

Sorry to repost, but I didn't get a reply first time. When battling online in BW2 (particularly Random and Ranked battles from the Pokemon Center) are you allowed for two or more Pokemon to hold the same item?

For instance, could two of my Pokemon hold a Life Orb each and could the other two have hold one Leftovers each?

Originally Posted by RiverAura

Originally Posted by XXASHXX

Yeah I know that part XD. I don't know what each trainers values are though. I heard that if you change the clock at any time you can actually lock the areas and the only way to unlock them is to wait several days to let the areas reset. How do we know what their maximum values can be? If we can find out what they can be then I will know exactly how long to wait XD.:)

Unfortunately, I don't believe there's a way to know a trainer's current value, so you just need to keep checking back every once in a while to see if they've left. As for the maximum value, I am not aware of one myself, but I'd assume it couldn't be any higher than 255 for the sake of coding. They may have even set it to a lower number like 100, but I am not sure.

Originally Posted by PiroNeko

What are the pros and cons of not letting your Pokemon evolve? I heard at one point that they level faster at a lower evolutionary stage. What have you heard? Specifically in reference to Pokemon White

The main advantage to not evolving Pokémon is that lower evolutionary stages learn some moves faster than their evolutions (for example, Snivy learns Leaf Storm at Lv. 43, while Servine learns it at Lv. 52 and Serperior doesn't learn it until Lv. 62). There are also some moves that only the lower evolutions will learn by level up (this is especially true in evolutions involving evolutionary stones, or evolutions which change a Pokemon's types).

A few other Pokémon are viewed as useful competitively in a lower evolutionary stage, especially in tandem with the item Eviolite (Porygon2, for example, is a much better tank than PorygonZ).

Other than those two things, though, I don't believe there are any other big advantages to evolving a Pokémon later. Evolution doesn't affect experience rates or EV training.

So if it is 100 I need to wait 20 days or so before I even enter those areas? If it is 255 then I need to wait around 50 days before I enter? So around 20 to 50 days before I can migrate? My first day was Sunday XD so around April 10 10 May 25 or something like that? I will check in 3 ish weeks if the values are that high XD.:)

Originally Posted by Draykez

Great, thanks! :)

Sorry to repost, but I didn't get a reply first time. When battling online in BW2 (particularly Random and Ranked battles from the Pokemon Center) are you allowed for two or more Pokemon to hold the same item?

For instance, could two of my Pokemon hold a Life Orb each and could the other two have hold one Leftovers each?

I think the Item Clause is always in effect for those kinds of battles. As far as I'm aware, the only way to battle without the Item Clause via WiFi is in the WiFi room using the 'No Restrictions' battle rules.

There is a medal called "Capturing Spree" which has a requirement description of "Capture at least 50 Pokémon within one day". Does this mean register at least 50 Pokémon in the Pokédex in one day or catching, hatching or obtaining at least 50 Pokémon in one day? If the second guess is correct can trading a Pokémon be a "capture"?

Originally Posted by Water Max

There is a medal called "Capturing Spree" which has a requirement description of "Capture at least 50 Pokémon within one day". Does this mean register at least 50 Pokémon in the Pokédex in one day or catching, hatching or obtaining at least 50 Pokémon in one day? If the second guess is correct can trading a Pokémon be a "capture"?

You do not need to register 50 new Pokémon, just obtain 50 new Pokémon, so your latter statement is correct. And yes, trading Pokémon with friends or transferring them through the PokéTransfer are both viable methods to obtain new Pokémon.

Hi!. I've been looking for some rare pokemon in Hidden Grottos, but since walking 256 steps takes some time, i decided to make some SR, at the entrance of the grotto. My question is, have anybody tried this? did it work? where did you save the game? I'm asking this because i've sred many times, but I get nothig, not even items. I started to count the steps while picking a repel on Abundant Shrine HG, and saved at the 255th step, one step from the entrance.

Originally Posted by pastafari

Hi!. I've been looking for some rare pokemon in Hidden Grottos, but since walking 256 steps takes some time, i decided to make some SR, at the entrance of the grotto. My question is, have anybody tried this? did it work? where did you save the game? I'm asking this because i've sred many times, but I get nothig, not even items. I started to count the steps while picking a repel on Abundant Shrine HG, and saved at the 255th step, one step from the entrance.

Hidden Grottos cant be soft resetted IIRC, Ive tried this myself and it dosent work. Once a Hidden Grotto is full you must collect the item or capture/KO a Pokemon that's in it to respawn it and walk 256 steps again.