Assuming that Sylveon is a perfect IVs zero EVs Pokémon with base 95 HP and neutral nature, what's the base Def that Sylveon needed for it to take only 41 HP of damage from a critical-hit Take Down from a 0 IVs 0 EVs Gabite with a random nature?
Honestly, if 95/60/65/110/130/65 turns out to be the real base stats I'd actually be ok with it. Sure, the speed is disappointing, but at least Sylveon will be useful both attacking and defending specially.
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Umbreon and it has a 95/130 Defense spread.
Wait, so do we know for sure that there was a Critical Hit Take Down from a Gabite? If that's true then my prediction of Sylveon mirroring Umbreon might be true....which would be nice since Game Freak seems to be trying to contrast Fairy and Dark with the box legends.
and now they should covertly introduce a Dragon Eeveelution that mirrors Espeon's stats with 65/130/95/65/60/110 since Dragons in the later generations can be compared to Psychic becoming a prominent typing for Legendary....and then we have Umbreon being immune to Psychic and Sylveon being immune to Dragon
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I wonder if they changed the base Damage of Take Down like they had with the HP-draining moves. What if instead of 90, it was 85 or 80?
Crits may only do 50% more damage instead of the 100% as previous - according to @Joshawott anyway.
Last edited by DarkS Umbreon; 24th August 2013 at 05:34 PM.
Okay, so everyone's talking about how Sylveon must have 110 if it OHKO's Gabite with Fairy wind. What base power are you all assuming? I'd say Fairy wind is likely similar to Ominous wind with a base power of 60, which means its at 90 with STAB.
Why do you assume Sylveon has max IV HP? If there is evidence for this then it is likely Max SAtk IV as well. Or that Gabite has 0 IVs?
I based my following calculations on the above assumptions (and my assumption that Sylveon has 65 base attack) using psypoke's calculator (since I am actually able to put in the SAtk values myself) using Umbreon as a place holder giving it Sylveon's SAtk stat at level 50 (85) and Gabite's SDef at level 50 (54) with Earthpower as a place holder for a STAB Fairy Wind assuming it has 60 base power (hence a 90 base power move).
It does 54-64 % damage. This would mean if you factor in that it's SE, Gabite would be OHKO.
Of course, if Gabite's IV's aren't 0, then it wouldn't OHKO under these assumptions.
Last edited by The Outrage; 24th August 2013 at 05:41 PM.
I wonder what the base power of Fairy Wind is. I guessed either 40 or 60 because the PP count was 30, but I'm not sure.
@The Outrage In the Pokémon Smash video confirming the Fairy-type, there was a level 50 Sylveon with 155 HP. In the English Demo, there was a level 30 Sylveon with 106 HP. A base HP stat of 95 would work for both at 0 IVs and EVs and 31 IVs and zero EVs, respectively.
At first, I mainly assumed that Fairy Wind dealt 40 base damage.
Last edited by LimitCrown; 24th August 2013 at 06:11 PM.
Kyogre and Dialga blatantly beat out their counterparts and Lugia gained moves to trump Ho-oh whereas the other didn't get anything in return. Zekrom and Reshiram are the only truly balanced ones and even then Reshiram got more tools on the benefit of being a more specially oriented Pokémon and having unresisted coverage. So unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if Yveltal got the short end of the stick in this deal.
That's what I said. The Sylveon in the English Demo had 31 IVs.
Can't someone who has plays the demo just view the Pokémon's status section in battle and see what the base power is? If it's at EuroGamer next month, I'll be sure to do that.