Yes, this generation
No, I'd prefer them in Gen 6
No, wait till Gen 7
No, i dont want r/s/e remakes
Lugia's Pokédex entries to the word "soul", but I'm too tired.
"It has an incredible ability to calm raging storms. It is said that Lugia appears when storms start."
"Soul: A person's moral or emotional nature or sense of identity."
I have no freaking idea.
...I've never actually read Lugia's Bulbapedia page before - did anybody else know the thing about the final episode of ER?
Ho-oh... Gold... "Heart of Gold" duh lol Ho-oh is also a fire type, an element that at times represents the heart. As for Soul, it is often paired with the Heart theme, for example "A person puts their heart and soul into something."
For Lugia, the idea of it resting in the deep ocean may reference the deep depths of a person's Soul that is often compared to the ocean.
As for Johto, notice how its a region steeped in ancient tradition and folklore. It kinda represents the "spirituality" thats very much lacking in its opposite the Kanto region.
So yeah, Heart/Soul were not out of left field at all.
Lugia is more known for saving ships from torrential storms. Though considering a single flap of its wings is also attributed to creating long-lasting ones, one begins to wonder how benevolent that act really is.
Let's just admit it, the HgSs plot was more or less geared toward Ho-Oh. They could have gone with a divergent plot that explored Lugia's, but no.
I'm on the camp that they just made up names and changed the plot to make it fit (even though Ho-Oh's plot would have fit it even as early Crystal as evident by its dex entry). I hear this "Heart of Gold" and "Soul of Silver" phrasing as justification. The former I've heard before, the latter, I've only heard in Pokemon forums as justification for Soul Silver. In fact, while googling "Heart of Gold" yields a great deal of results, googling "Soul of Silver" yields only Pokemon games on the first page.
Really, it seems like they went with "Heart of Gold" because that actually fits with Ho-Oh's theme. Soul Silver on the other hand? Seems like they shoved Silver into the periphery and gave it a prefix because of "Heart and Soul" seeming like they go together.
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And yeah, I always thought it was weird how HGSS's plot was more geared toward Ho-oh and SS players just got sorta turned around. "We're in the city with the tower honoring Ho-oh. Let's go meet Lugia instead, though!"
So as far as RSE theme naming goes, they really don't have to make it thematic, though as evident by the last two releases, they seem to be going with more relevant theme names (even if Heart and Soul really only pertains to one bird).
Lugia's plot is really left almost as vague as Mewtwo's origins. We know Mewtwo's a genetically altered Mew, but not why those experiments were done. We know Lugia has a relation to Ecruteak then moved to Whirl Islands, but nothing else was really said about that.
Now that I think about it, there's really no grand explanation as to why Groudon and Kyogre fight other than as an illustration of an imagined struggle between land and sea, but then we don't know why Rayquaza has the power to stop the other two. Hopefully these games may answer that. DP at least did a good job trying to explain how Giratina's power was able to oppose both Palkia and Dialga.
^ Maybe they just possess a natural rivalry with each other very similar to Zangoose/Seviper who are also part of the same generation. Its like another version of Yin/Yang I guess, with Rayquaza being the balance.
As for the names and Ho-oh having more relevance... I have no real answer for that. Would have been nice if Lugia's tower was restored and it was went into a bit more, though we did learn that it stopped a war and created Whirl Islands.
People can't lie that the name HeartGold just fits though, and it was indeed built upon what was already there. Though like Purim said one must go into their own interpretation for SoulSilver. But like I said before, the names and themes of Heart/Soul usually are featured together alot, so even if one makes more since than the other, they both would likely appear together. Another thing, like I said before Johto as a whole seems pretty traditional and more spiritual than Kanto, so those names fit anyways.
I just see them taking a more "natural" theme with the names as the Hoenn region is a pretty nature based region. Something simple to reflect this imo, like Magma/Aqua.
You say that Heart and Soul don't make sense, but how does Passion and Honesty? They're your interpretations.
^Except the item descriptions for the RUBY mention passion and that for the SAPPHIRE meantions honesty.
Ho-oh has the ingame connections to Heart, and Ruby and Sapphire have ingame connections to Passion and Honesty, specifically.
"Laws and principles are not for the times when there is no temptation: they are for such moments as this, when body and soul rise in mutiny against their rigour; stringent are they; inviolate they shall be. If at my individual convenience I might break them, what would be their worth??" - Charlotte Brontë ; Jane Eyre