Thread: Moves you think a Pokemon should have.

Here's a good one: Chandelure' Pokédex entry (at least in Black) explicitly mentions its ability to hypnotize people, yet Chandelure cannot learn Hypnosis by any method. This is made more confusing by the fact that Chandelure is able to use Dream Eater - without a sleep-inducing move, Dream Eater is completely useless. I can't make a whole lot of sense out of that one.

Oh, and Garchomp could conceivably learn Fly - after all, the Doduo line can learn it by virtue of being flying-types, despite the fact that they have no visible methods of flying. Garchomp can at least glide, which is a method of travel by air.

Personally, I think Cacnea/Cacturne should learn Cotton Guard due to the fact all the other Pokes that learn Cotton Spore also have Cotton Guard, so why not them? I mean, even MARACTUS has it. YET ANOTHER CACTUS. Derp GameFreak, derp.

Originally Posted by Chromas

Here's a good one: Chandelure' Pokédex entry (at least in Black) explicitly mentions its ability to hypnotize people, yet Chandelure cannot learn Hypnosis by any method. This is made more confusing by the fact that Chandelure is able to use Dream Eater - without a sleep-inducing move, Dream Eater is completely useless. I can't make a whole lot of sense out of that one.

This is clearly just a massive fail on the part of game freak. I think they originally wanted to give it hypnosis but forgot D:

Originally Posted by DarkCrown

Personally, I think Cacnea/Cacturne should learn Cotton Guard due to the fact all the other Pokes that learn Cotton Spore also have Cotton Guard, so why not them? I mean, even MARACTUS has it. YET ANOTHER CACTUS. Derp GameFreak, derp.

Yeah, I agree. It really wouldn't do much for them, though, since Cacturne's defences are pretty bad. But for flavour, it should be there.

Originally Posted by hurristat

This is clearly just a massive fail on the part of game freak. I think they originally wanted to give it hypnosis but forgot D:

I think the did it so it didn't become extremely broken. What I mean is, once Shadow Tag Chandy is released, it could come in on something that it can easily counter, sleep it, and then set up. At least without Hypnosis you could stand a chance. >.<

But it definately is a fail on GF's behalf, putting that in the 'dex then not giving it the move.

Originally Posted by Blitzle

I think the did it so it didn't become extremely broken. What I mean is, once Shadow Tag Chandy is released, it could come in on something that it can easily counter, sleep it, and then set up. At least without Hypnosis you could stand a chance. >.<

But it definitely is a fail on GF's behalf, putting that in the 'dex then not giving it the move.

Well, it's not even that, but the fact that it can learn Dream Eater but not Hypnosis. I don't care if you remove them both, or have them both, just be consistent and don't give it a move it can't use.

Eh, it can use Dream Eater. Single battles aren't the only battles available, you know. For all we know, they could have it made it so it's meant to be used in Doubles/Triples/whatever. Just because it's not usable in singles doesn't mean it "can't use" it at all.

This still doesn't take away the fact the dex says it can hypnotise, though.

Originally Posted by Blitzle

Eh, it can use Dream Eater. Single battles aren't the only battles available, you know. For all we know, they could have it made it so it's meant to be used in Doubles/Triples/whatever. Just because it's not usable in singles doesn't mean it "can't use" it at all.

Of course, but in everyday battles, they're all single battles, and it's a waste of a slot unless you battle doubles all the time. And even then you need something that learns hypnosis or spore or some other sleep-inducing move.

This still doesn't take away the fact the dex says it can hypnotise, though.

Of course, but it's not as much of a fail as the Dream Eater.

Well, I don't double battle myself, so I agree it's annoying. But if you form your team's strategy right in doubles, I'm sure it's usable.

Dream Eater's not that much of a fail, though. It has the move in its movepool and can use it, just not all the time. It doesn't even learn Hypnosis when it says it can hypnotise, so in my eyes, that seems like the bigger fail of the two.

Flareon should have Flare Blitz. Then he wouldn't be so underused!

Originally Posted by Blitzle

Well, I don't double battle myself, so I agree it's annoying. But if you form your team's strategy right in doubles, I'm sure it's usable.

Of course, this is true. But that's a plan that really doesn't allow for much flexibility, something any competitive team needs.

Sent Shadow Tag Chandelure to Dream Eater on a Sleep Talker. Watch the foe go "OH CRAP!". There, Dream Eater sans Hypnosis sounds great now.

As for Flareon, give him a Choice Band/Scarf with Flare Blitz and he'd be overpowered and broken, right? D8 Plus I think Flare Blitz is for powerful Fire-type Pokemon who are (or will evolve into) something physically big and strong. Looking at the list of those who can learn Flare Blitz, only Victini doesn't fit that description.

Flareon would still suck even with Flare Blitz.

Entei,Raikou,Suicune need hone claws
Emboar should have fire punch(dex entry)
Samurott should have shell smash and so should blastoise.

Here's a good one: Chandelure' Pokédex entry (at least in Black) explicitly mentions its ability to hypnotize people, yet Chandelure cannot learn Hypnosis by any method. This is made more confusing by the fact that Chandelure is able to use Dream Eater - without a sleep-inducing move, Dream Eater is completely useless. I can't make a whole lot of sense out of that one.

You can punish a pokemon that like uses rest a lot by giving it some dream eaters.

Pikachu should be able to learn bite.... its a rodent it should be able to bite. And pokemon like raticate and gyrados should be able to use Crunch

Originally Posted by AshK

You can punish a pokemon that like uses rest a lot by giving it some dream eaters.

Pikachu should be able to learn bite.... its a rodent it should be able to bite. And pokemon like raticate and gyrados should be able to use Crunch

I suppose that works as well -- an unexpected dream eater is probably the last thing most of the opponents expect.

I can see Gyarados, maybe, but Raticate doesn't seem strong enough to crunch, per se.

There's more than Chandelure in that situation. Dream Eater's simply a TM to it, not a level-up move.

Seismitoad's pool lacks Ice Beam, I'm just playing with one and the big lack of coverage bugs me too much.