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    Zubat; all he does is make your journey across a four-tile cave take hours.

    Of course, Crobat can be very useful, but if we're talkin' about single pokemon, then all I have to say to GameFreak about Zubat is ,"Why, GameFreak, WHY!?"

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    I personally hated Magicarp. There's a trainer in HG/SS that has a level 60 something Magicarp. When I defeated it I got less experience then a lvl 20 something wild poke.

    As far as which poke I was the least thrilled with investing time to train, I would probably say Tyranitar. Any fighting move used against him destroyed him, even if the poke wasn't a fighting type. I remember when Alakazam one shot him with the sp att based fighting move in the E4. I think my exact words were 'fuck this game.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post
    and that's your choice. You can make them useful for your team, but that doesn't mean they're not useless pokemon.


    Oh, and Corsola. He's also useless.
    "you can make them useful but that doesn't mean they're not useless"...that's completely contradictory.

    I hate this " Pokemon who don't excel in competitive battling are pointless" mentality that so many people seem to have. EVERY Pokemon can be put to use in some way (well, except maybe Magikarp)

    Also Corsola...she (75% female species) is most certainly not useless. People obviously have no creativity if a Pokemon like this is deemed "useless"
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    in my oppinion, only the worst of the worst of the worst are useless.

    Unknown. that's all i can think of, one move, very common abbility, sub-par stats.

    Luvdisc too
    Heart scale... allthough, now, since heart scales arn't found that way, luvdisc is useless.

    but, all other pokemon are usefull in some way.

    Houndoom and Ninetails outclassed by Heatran in competitive?
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    Magikarp, Zubat?
    Gyrados, Crobat.

    Ditto?
    Breeding.

    Biddof, Zigzagoon, Rattatata?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncanny Madman View Post
    "you can make them useful but that doesn't mean they're not useless"...that's completely contradictory.

    I hate this " Pokemon who don't excel in competitive battling are pointless" mentality that so many people seem to have. EVERY Pokemon can be put to use in some way (well, except maybe Magikarp)

    Also Corsola...she (75% female species) is most certainly not useless. People obviously have no creativity if a Pokemon like this is deemed "useless"
    yeah, that was poor wording on my choice. I thought about that as soon as I hit post, but decided not to change it.


    let me word it this way.

    Any pokemon is usable in game. You can always find a use for it in game, so I see no reason to even argue about the practicalities of using it in game.

    I speak only of the competitive aspect of pokemon, because thats where distinctions can be made. That's where you can look at the different pokemon and cast aside the useless ones.

    And yeah, there are useless ones. The fact that you attack the
    " Pokemon who don't excel in competitive battling are pointless"
    mentality is rather telling. Because this is competitive. And if they're not good, they're useless. That has nothing to do with creativity, because creativity is how you get the sets. That has everything to do with base stat totals, move-pools, typing, ability. and if they're not good enough, why use them? There are better things? They serve no purpose when they've been done better.

    and yeah, Corsola is ok for breeding. but there are better things to pass on the necessary egg moves
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    Magikarp is the most useless. It's literally a gasping, flopping fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post

    I speak only of the competitive aspect of pokemon, because thats where distinctions can be made. That's where you can look at the different pokemon and cast aside the useless ones.

    And yeah, there are useless ones. The fact that you attack the mentality is rather telling. Because this is competitive. And if they're not good, they're useless. That has nothing to do with creativity, because creativity is how you get the sets. That has everything to do with base stat totals, move-pools, typing, ability. and if they're not good enough, why use them? There are better things? They serve no purpose when they've been done better.


    Yes, that's valid, why use a Blazekien when you can have Infernape, but, as i said above
    welcome to UU and NU.

    save for about half of NU, and the majority of NFE, no pokemon is useless competitivy.
    and salamance/garchomp.
    they are useless now that they are uber.
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    I posted this in another thread, but I think it's relevant here too.


    Note that this refers only to NU Pokemon.

    Instead of repeating myself, I'll just use the nifty little quote option:

    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy View Post
    The trick is separating the crappy Pokemon from the good, but outclassed ones.

    For example:

    -Ninetales
    -Meganium
    -Entei
    -Espeon
    -Regirock
    -Regice
    -Articuno
    -Slaking
    -Regigigas
    -Manectric
    -Medicham
    -Jumpluff
    -Charizard
    -Typhlosion
    -Flareon
    -Glaceon

    Are all excellent Pokemon in their own right. They can all more than hold their own in the higher tiers (yes, both UU AND OU) but they get outclassed or hindered by something that keeps them down. They're not bad at all, there's just better options out there.

    Respectively:

    -Ninetales- Houndoom
    -Meganium- Venusaur
    -Entei- Arcanine
    -Espeon- Alakazam
    -Regirock- Registeel
    -Regice- Registeel/Blissey
    -Articuno- Stealth Rock/poor defensive typing
    -Slaking- Traunt
    -Regigigas- Slow Start
    -Manectric- Jolteon
    -Medicham- Gallade
    -Jumpluff- Sceptile
    -Charizard- Moltres/Blaziken/Infernape
    -Typhlosion- Arcanine/Moltres/Houndoom/Blaziken/Infernape
    -Flareon- Arcanine
    -Glaceon- Poor defensive typing/bad speed

    Then there's the real crap Pokemon. These are the Pokemon you would never send to fight a Salamence, Tyranitar or Dragonite. Not if you're in any way interested in winning, that is.

    -Noctowl
    -Pidgeot
    -Butterfree
    -Beedrill
    -Beautifly
    -Dustox
    -Masquerain
    -Dunsparce
    -Corsola
    -Camerupt
    -Magcargo
    -Lumineon
    -Seaking
    -Vileplume
    -Bellossom
    -Shiftry
    -Bastiodon

    to name a few.

    Sorry, but the fact is that there are underrated Pokemon (the former) and bad Pokemon (the latter). The bad Pokemon can still be infinitely cool (and in fact, I'm a personal fan of a ton of them [love Pidgeot, Noctowl and all the Grass types mentioned, for example]), but sadly, they are just statistically inferior.
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    why are people BLATENTLY ignoring the fact that there are Tires to this shit?

    your NEVER gonna have to fight a beedrill against a salamance.

    BECAUSE ONE IS IN UBER, AND THE OTHER IS IN NEVER USED.

    granted, beedrill sucks in NU as well, but that's beside the point
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCM View Post
    Chatot is also useless
    I thought this at first, but Chatot has decent attacking stats for the low tiers as well as Nasty Plot. I don't think it's useless :)

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    For gens 1-4, Pikachu.
    The mascot of the fucking franchise sux like hell unless it holds a light ball and even then is so easy to OHKO?
    And it's evo is only usable in NU and UU?
    No thanks.
    Sure it is a glass cannon, but I wouldn't say a base 90 Speed Poke with nice mixed offensive stats is useless.

    My vote would be Spinda. It's like Farfetch'd - Signature Item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. View Post
    why are people BLATENTLY ignoring the fact that there are Tires to this shit?

    your NEVER gonna have to fight a beedrill against a salamance.

    BECAUSE ONE IS IN UBER, AND THE OTHER IS IN NEVER USED.

    granted, beedrill sucks in NU as well, but that's beside the point
    ive beaten an ubers doubles team with my nu doubles team
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. View Post
    why are people BLATENTLY ignoring the fact that there are Tires to this shit?

    your NEVER gonna have to fight a beedrill against a salamance.

    BECAUSE ONE IS IN UBER, AND THE OTHER IS IN NEVER USED.

    granted, beedrill sucks in NU as well, but that's beside the point
    Maybe because Pokemon can play in tiers above them? I use Venusaur and Houndoom in OU all the time. I've fought Salamence and Metagross and Tyranitar with my Meganium, and won sometimes too. That's why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Envoy View Post
    Maybe because Pokemon can play in tiers above them? I use Venusaur and Houndoom in OU all the time. I've fought Salamence and Metagross and Tyranitar with my Meganium, and won sometimes too. That's why?
    then youve dis-proven your own point and those pokemon are not useless.
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    I'm not saying ignoring the tiers, they're just not applicable here. thats a specific situation in which they are useful. OU is standard, there is no ifs ands or buts about that. and in the standard metagame, NU and UU are useless, for the most part. Sure, there are some that shine (here's looking at you, Porgon2), but most have better counterparts in the standard metagame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. View Post
    then youve dis-proven your own point and those pokemon are not useless.
    I never said those Pokemon were useless. In fact, my exact words were that they were outclassed, which they are. I gave a list of actual useless Pokemon and a list of useful, but outclassed Pokemon. Look at my post again, yeah?

    Oh, and even if I had used Beedrill against a Salamence (which I haven't), my argument was referring to your post about tiers, which implied that Pokemon of lower tiers simply couldn't play in the higher ones. It had nothing to do with their usefulness or lackthereof.
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