Thread: Gym Leader/Elite 4/Champion Discussion

Originally Posted by Zeb

Originally Posted by The Outrage

On topic, I'd like to know where it explicitly states Brycen retired from being a gym leader. His Memory link with Alder only implied that he was going back to the movies (whereas Alder specifically decided to step down), and we know people can hold two jobs at once in this game. His gym is also fully intact with Clyde, so at most I'd say he's on sabbatical while working on movies.

He's actually at the end of the gym once you work through the puzzle. He just says a few words and then walks off. So I'll probably agree with you.

Him just being on sabbatical is supported by his presence is the World Tournament as well.

Originally Posted by Signas

Him just being on sabbatical is supported by his presence is the World Tournament as well.

Not really, we know the PWT invites past Champions, and we have Lenora, who actually gave up her position to Cheren.

I'm amazed by the Iris and I have to admit I have spoiled it for myself by watching her battle on Youtube. I love her style and the music is just amazing in the background :D

In regards to the poll question: HELL NO

Drayden would have been a much better choice and let Iris inherit the Gym Full time. Also this causes a lot of problems for the anime. In the anime she has an Axew, Excadrill and an Emolga! Hardly champion worth material. So think the anime will just ignore her and have her as a novice all the way through, much like they ignored her being a part time Gym leader.

The great battle!



Let's discuss Iris's team in the new Black and White 2 games.

I personally really like the Pokemon on Iris's team and they all seem to fit the theme. However I don't see how Archeops really relates to the dragon theme to be honest.

So what do you think of the team and do you like the match up?

Haxorus should be a boy to match the anime, I know games don't pay that much attention but it would just be cool to imagine that he finally became a Haxorus.
Also the non dragons are all a bit meh, not really even related to dragons but then I guess there isn't that many dragons could have added Dragonite like the anime. If they had to have none-dragons couldn't they match the anime maybe with Excadrill?

Archeops kinda fits, just based on look. It's old and powerful, almost a dragon. They all seem to fit pretty well. I look forward to being up against this team!

Her team isn't just dragon-themed, it's "dinosaur" themed. Hence the inclusion of Lapras, Aggron, and Archeops. I suppose it's not bad...considering having a second Dragon Champion is a little monotonous.

Lame. If you've got a Fighting type with Ice Punch, it's over. Specialized Champions don't work, as it just makes it all the easier to sweep. They had the right idea with Blue and Cynthia. Not counting Alder since his team shares a comparable weakness to rock/fire.

Originally Posted by Therian

In regards to the poll question: HELL NO

Drayden would have been a much better choice and let Iris inherit the Gym Full time. Also this causes a lot of problems for the anime. In the anime she has an Axew, Excadrill and an Emolga! Hardly champion worth material. So think the anime will just ignore her and have her as a novice all the way through, much like they ignored her being a part time Gym leader.

I agree with your stance on Drayden, though to be fair, being the mayor would make that difficult. I still think it should have been Marshal or Cheren though.

As for the anime, it's never really followed the games all that well, as Blue/Gary never became Champion in the anime. Though I can see her becoming new Unova Champion at the end of Best Wishes.

Originally Posted by Signas

Lame. If you've got a Fighting type with Ice Punch, it's over. Specialized Champions don't work, as it just makes it all the easier to sweep. They had the right idea with Blue and Cynthia. Not counting Alder since his team shares a comparable weakness to rock/fire.

Yeah, I agree with the sentiments regarding Blue and Cynthia. Without knowing much of the storyline in B2W2, I feel as if Cheren would make the most believable champion outside of Alder returning to his role. Rather than the normal type team he uses in his gym, they could set him up to have a mixed team (like his BW team) with a starter strong against your own. That way the team would be more varied and difficult to face.

I don't mind her focus on dragons/dinosaurs since her team isn't just mono-dragon. The part that does kind of bother me is that she shares a main Pokemon with a gym leader. That seems rather redundant. They should have been a bit more creative with her best.

I'm kind of wondering why Lapras is in there. Aggron too. I agree with everyone, it seems dragon/dinosaur-ish. I'm not really surprised her team isn't competitive, but Champion's team hardly ever are though. I think it would be a fun battle though. Mainly because of the music. XDD

Lame

Iris never had potential to be like Blue anyway.

So since when did people give a damn who the champion was? I never saw this kind of whining ever. Sounds to me that the idea of Iris as the champion is too much for you complainers to handle. Is it just because she doesn't fit your stereotypical description of a champion? Or are you letting the anime influence what you see in the games?