Gym Leader/Elite 4/Champion Discussion

I am also quite disappointed with the gym leader teams this generation. They were too easy in BW, and it looks like they're going to be more of the same in BW2. I really hope that the under-levelling is a sign of much higher level battles in the post game, though I do hope they don't suddenly jump in levels the way they did in BW. I'd much rather the level increase happen gradually throughout the pre-league story and then continue on naturally so there's no sudden need to grind your team up ten extra levels just to survive in the post-game.

She doesn't have Venipede, but Whirlipede

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Originally Posted by Mucrush

She doesn't have Venipede, but Whirlipede

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Which is underlevel. (Level 18)

Cheren: Herdier, Patrat

Homika: Koffing, Whirlipede

Burgh: Swadloon, Dwebble, Butterfree

Shizui: Buizel, Frillish, Jellicent

Elesa: Flaaffy, Zebstrika, Emolga

Clay: Excadrill, Palpitoad, Krokorok

Skyla: Unfezant, Braviary, Staraptor, Pidgeot

Drayden/Iris: Dragonite, Haxorus, Druddigon, Fraxure

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Originally Posted by Eifi

Cheren: Herdier, Patrat

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They pretty much confirmed that Cheren will be having a Lillipup instead of a Herdier...

Confirmed order
Cheren
Homika
Burgh
Elesa
Clay
Skyla
Drayden
Shizui

The good thing about Elesa still being in the same position is that it probably means there's a level bump, since Flaaffy is level 28 and it's likely that Zebstrika is still her main pokemon which will be around level 30 imo. That then means Clay, Skyla etc will all be higher. Though this seems obvious considering how many new routes and places we're getting, because more routes and areas means more battles which means more EXP.

Also, Shizui being last... :3 I'm better than you @Gym Leader Drayden;! :P

I hope Shizui's strongest Pokemon is a Lumineon.

Wow, I did not think for a moment that Shizui would be the eighth gym leader, but that must be why he's alongside top-tier trainers like Drayden, Caitlin and Cynthia in the new BW2 anime opening.

I suspect he'll have either a Gyarados or Milotic in his team, maybe a Samurott as well.

I think Shizui's team will be: Golduck, Ludicolo, Jellicent/Carracosta.

Now that Shizui's order is last, I'm changing my predictions around:

Cheren: LV 11 Patrat, LV 13 Lillipup (confirmed)
Homika: LV 16 Koffing, LV 18 Whirlipede (confirmed)
Burgh: LV 21-23 Dwebble, LV 21-23 pre-Gen V Bug-type, LV 23-25 Leavanny
Elesa: Emolga (probably same LV as Flaafy), LV28 Flaafy, LV 30 Zebstrika (the final pokemon seems to be two levels higher than the rest of a GL's team)
Clay: LV 31-33 Krokorok, LV 31-33 Palpitoad/Seismitoad and/or pre-Gen V Ground-type, LV 33-35 Excadrill
Skyla: LV 35-38 Unfezant, LV 35-38 Crobat (assuming it's confirmed, possibly replace Swoobat), LV 37-40 Swanna
Drayden: LV 41-43 Fraxure, LV 41-43 Druddigon and/or pre-Gen V Dragon-type, LV 43-45 Haxorus
Shizui: LV 45-47 pre-Gen V Water-types, LV 47-50 Gen V water-type (possibly Alomomola)

I don't know why people are so surprised about Shizui's position. He had all Ace Trainers in his gym despite the Swimmer trainer class being more fitting.

Hold on a second guys, did this seriously go through the anime writer's heads?:
"Hey, we need to have a Gym Leader from Black 2/White 2 to battle Ash for his 8th badge to help promote the new games"
"Well, we have two confirmed Gym Leaders from the game so far - Homika, who is 2nd and Shizui, who is 8th"
"Wait, the 8th Gym Leader has been confirmed already?!"
"Yes"
"Okay, we're going with Homika".

Predictions! Minus Cheren, Homika, and Elesa, since they are confirmed! I must say, I'm a little disappointed by Lillipup, but whatever. I'm sure there'll be some trick that makes him great.

I'm also incredibly happy Shizui is the eighth gym leader. Go Water types!

Cheren:
Patrat
Lillipup

Homika:
Koffing
Whirlipede - I'm glad she has Whirlipede over Trubbish, to be honest.

Burgh:
Dwebble
Vespiquen - Please? Unless the honey's gone, I think she'd fit him grandly.
Leavanny

Elesa:
Emolga
Flaaffy - Good choice, Gamefreak! Flaaffy suits her well.
Zebstrika

Clay:
Krokorok
Gliscor - I think that'd be a really cool 'mon for his team, if Gligar's line comes to Unova.
Excadrill

Skyla:
Swoobat
Togekiss - Eh, why not? If the Togepi line is in Unova, I think it'd be cool. Skyla's incredibly happy and peppy, and Altaria's been used by Winona and Iris or Drayden might have one.
Swanna

Drayden:
Deino - Since he's the seventh gym leader, I can't see him having a Zweilous, unless the leaders are more powerful than we're expecting. I'd love to see a Zweilous.
Flygon
Haxorus

Shizui:
Ludicolo/Vaporeon
Alomomola
Golduck/Vaporeon

Shizui's team's the hardest for me. I'd love to see him with any combination of those four Pokemon. I do think he should have Alomomola because I'd rather not see the Oshawott line again and because he should have a Unova Water type. I don't like Seismitoad. I suppose Carracosta would be a good choice, too. Especially with Solid Rock.

Ludicolo/Vaporeon/Golduck
Alomomola/Carracosta
Golduck/Vaporeon

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Originally Posted by Gym Leader Janine

Hold on a second guys, did this seriously go through the anime writer's heads?:
"Hey, we need to have a Gym Leader from Black 2/White 2 to battle Ash for his 8th badge to help promote the new games"
"Well, we have two confirmed Gym Leaders from the game so far - Homika, who is 2nd and Shizui, who is 8th"
"Wait, the 8th Gym Leader has been confirmed already?!"
"Yes"
"Okay, we're going with Homika".

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Hey, I ain't complaining about that. Homika is awesome. :)