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    Quote Originally Posted by Golbat-Man View Post
    How on earth am I supposed to get the gold symbol for the battle hall? I'm using a Naive Garchomp, with a perfect attack, speed, and HP IV, EV trained in speed and attack. Even with a yache berry, I either get swept by Weavile with a focus sash or a bulky poke like lickilicky with ice punch, if I don't freeze first. Garchomp knows Outrage, Earthquake, Crunch, and Fire Fang. Maybe there's still something fast out there with decent typing and coverage?.
    I wouldn't do it with Garchomp, because without setting up, it's not nearly as powerful as many people think. I always make sure to use something with a Sash in the Hall, so I would try to rework the team completely. Something worth remembering though; not counting ant Choice Scarf users, Salac Berry users, or multiple uses of Speed Boost (and Ninjask as a whole for that matter) or Agility, or moves of the nature, the highest Speed you'll see is 161. Electrodes are not trained with any Speed, and cap at 160 (This math is all assuming Level 50 though, so if it exceeds that, the numbers are different).

    Your Garchomp now has 169 Speed (again, Level 50), but it has no priority moves, so guys like Weavile can abuse STAB Ice Shard and WILL 2HKO you. As long as they have the Sash to back themselves up, it doesn't matter what they do. I would invest into something like Infernape which can use Fake Out and Vacuum Wave, or even Ambipom which can use Fake Out+Technician. Trust me, that 4x weakness IS the problem, so you need a Pokemon without such an exploited opening.
    Last edited by VanillaThunderbolt; 20th September 2010 at 04:58 PM. Reason: Totally forgot the word "not", which is kind of misleading...

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    Default Re: TAKE NOTE: All in-game teams go here.

    My team from Pokémon XD: Gale Of Darkness:

    Pokémon: Eevee
    Nickname: LUCIFUR
    Level: 51
    Moves:
    Shadow Ball
    Shadow End
    Take Down
    Crunch

    Pokémon: Shadow Lugia
    Nickname: THANATOS
    Level: 50
    Moves:
    Shadow Blast
    Shadow Shed
    Shadow Down
    Shadow Storm

    Pokémon: Ledian
    Nickname: PLUTO
    Level: 47
    Moves:
    Psychic
    Signal Beam
    Shadow Blast
    Silver Wind

    Pokémon: Bonsly
    Nickname: DEMETER
    Level: 51
    Moves:
    Rock Slide
    Mimic
    Shadow Break
    Faint Attack

    Pokémon: Castform♀ (Shadow, Shiny)
    Nickname: EREBUS
    Level: 44
    Moves:
    Shadow Storm
    Shadow Shed
    Shadow Sky
    Weather Ball

    Pokémon: Voltorb (Shiny)
    Nickname: VACUNA
    Level: 45
    Moves:
    Shadow Bolt
    Thunderbolt
    Explosion
    Shadow End

    I also have other pokemon in my box I sometimes switch with some of my party members

    Pokémon: Shiftry

    Nickname: BOKO
    Level: 51
    Moves:
    Giga Drain
    Faint Attack
    Shadow Blast
    Extrasensory

    Pokémon: Deoxys (Shiny, Normal Form)
    Nickname: ARES
    Level:
    Moves:
    Recover
    Psycho Boost
    Psychic
    Shadow Half

    Pokémon: Exeggutor♀ (Shiny)
    Nickname: the NORNS
    Level: 46
    Moves:
    Shadow Storm
    Tri Attack
    Recover
    Frenzy Plant

    Pokémon: Vaporeon
    Nickname: THALASSA
    Level: 51
    Moves:
    Shadow Storm
    Surf
    Shadow Panic
    Shadow Chill

    Pokémon: Jolteon
    Nickname: JUPITER
    Level: 51
    Moves:
    Shadow Bolt
    Rain Dance
    Thunder
    Pin Missile

    Pokémon: Flareon
    Nickname: VULCAN
    Level: 51
    Moves:
    Shadow Fire
    Sacred Fire
    Flamethrower
    Shadow Shed

    Pokémon: Umbreon♀ (Shiny)
    Nickname: NYX
    Level: 52
    Moves:
    Moonlight
    Shadow End
    Crunch
    Shadow Panic

    Pokémon: Flareon♀ (Shiny)
    Nickname: APHRODITE
    Level: 51
    Moves:
    Covet
    Lovely Kiss
    Attract
    Shadow Panic

    Pokémon: Espeon
    Nickname: YHI
    Level: 52
    Moves:
    Doom Desire
    Solarbeam
    Shadow Sky
    Signal Beam

    Action Replay has obviously been a big help to me :D

  3. #603

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    My current Heart Gold team has Toxicroak, Metagross, Tyranitar, Froslass, and Ho-oh. I was using Torterra but since he was my starter in Platinum I wanted to swap him with a Ludicolo. I ended up not being much of a fan of Ludicolo so I'm wondering what I should use now?

    So far I'm thinking of forgoing a water or grass poke and picking up something else, or blowing up my team. If I rebuild, I know that I want to keep Toxicroak and Metagross on the team. The rest I don't have any strong connections to.

  4. #604

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    My Soulsilver Team:

    Infernape: Charcoal
    -Flamethrower
    -Mach Punch
    -Calm Mind
    -Close Combat

    Gliscor: Muscle Band
    -Dig
    -Aerial Ace
    -X-scissor
    -Sword Dance

    Slowking:
    -Psychic
    -Surf
    -Yawn
    -Nasty Plot

    Abomasnow: nevermeltice
    -Ice Beam
    -Wood Hammer
    -Razor leaf
    -Ice Shard

    Magnezone:
    -Discharge
    -Mirror shot
    -Metal sound
    -Supersonic

    Tyranitar: Black Glasses
    -Crunch
    -Rock Slide
    -Earthquake
    -Screech

    Its a good team, but I want to make some changes. I can't think of anything really though that would help make it better My main problems are with Magnezone and Slowking and the status moves for each Pokemon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpbeatFerno View Post
    My Soulsilver Team:

    Infernape: Charcoal
    -Flamethrower
    -Mach Punch
    -Calm Mind
    -Close Combat

    Gliscor: Muscle Band
    -Dig
    -Aerial Ace
    -X-scissor
    -Sword Dance

    Slowking:
    -Psychic
    -Surf
    -Yawn
    -Nasty Plot

    Abomasnow: nevermeltice
    -Ice Beam
    -Wood Hammer
    -Razor leaf
    -Ice Shard

    Magnezone:
    -Discharge
    -Mirror shot
    -Metal sound
    -Supersonic

    Tyranitar: Black Glasses
    -Crunch
    -Rock Slide
    -Earthquake
    -Screech

    Its a good team, but I want to make some changes. I can't think of anything really though that would help make it better My main problems are with Magnezone and Slowking and the status moves for each Pokemon.
    can't really think of anything... lose the blackglasses on tyranitar and give it the muscle band, Gliscor gets a big enough boost from swords dance and give your Gliscor Shell Bell or Leftovers, give Slowking Wise Glasses and thats all i can think of...
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    Default Re: TAKE NOTE: All in-game teams go here.

    Hello, I'm trying to make a rain team for the battle tower(SoulSilver)and i'd like to know what you guys think.

    Bronzong@Damp Rock
    Ability:Levitate
    Nature:Impish
    -Rain Dance
    -Explosion
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake(or Reflect/Hypnosis)
    252HP/152Atk/8Def/96Spd

    Kingdra@Life Orb
    Ability:Swift Swim
    Nature:Naughty
    -Rain Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Hydro Pump(or Surf, Haven't decided yet)
    -Draco Meteor
    252Atk/240Spa/16Spe

    Starmie@Leftovers(Still trying to decide on the item)
    Ability:Natural Cure
    Nature:Timid
    -Surf
    -Thunder
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin(or Recover)
    4HP/252Spa/252Spe
    Last edited by exordia; 27th September 2010 at 12:06 PM.

  7. #607

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    I'm all about the Tower, so I'd be glad to help. Chenges in bold.

    Quote Originally Posted by exordia View Post
    Bronzong@Damp Rock
    Ability:Levitate
    Nature:Impish
    -Rain Dance
    -Explosion
    -Hypnosis
    -Iron Head/Zen Headbutt
    252 HP/128 Def/128 Sp.Def
    Bronzong is awesome, but unless you go offensive with Calm Mind, stick to pure defense. The Tower Trainers switch once in a blue moon, thus Stealth Rock is not going to be worth the turn thrown out to set up. However, to exploit their no-switch AI, throw Hypnosis in there to make anything a safe switch in. Earthquake is great coverage, and Iron Head or Zen Headbutt is just STAB.

    Kingdra@Life Orb|White Herb
    Ability:Swift Swim
    Nature:Modest
    -HP Ground/Yawn
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf
    -Dragon Pulse|Draco Meteor
    Guessing, but 152 HP/252 Sp.Atk/100 Speed
    Without a Stat calculator on hand, I can't remember where the Speed mark for Kingdra's EVs are, and where they become useless investments. Just know, as long as it has 122 Speed, it's guarenteed to outspeed everything except for Ninjask post-boost, and /maybe/ some other Swift Swimmers (hence the guess on the EVs, I'll edit this post when I get access to better info). Go all Special, it gives you more variety. Skip Rain Dance, you could always switch back into Bronzong very safely and set up again, if necesary. If you go Draco Meteor, go for White Herb, but it's still risky with Intimidate and other Stat reducers going around. Same goes for Hydro Pump, it's too risky.Hidden Power gives coverage, especially on Thunder using Electric Types. However, Yawn will help sometimes when Kingdra is in, but about to go down and you really don't think it can get the KO. Signal Beam could work too I guess, it's your call really. You won't use the move too much in either case, but Rain Dance probably won't be used period.

    Starmie@Leftovers
    Ability:Natural Cure
    Nature:Timid
    -Surf
    -Thunder
    -Psychic
    -Recover
    4HP/252Spa/252Spe

    You also don't necesarily need all that Speed. Most of the threats that Starmie can totally annihilate don't even come close to outspeeding Starmie. The way I worked mine was to specifically outspeed all Garchomps, Dragonites, Gyarados, and Salamence, and OHKO with Ice Beam, or Thunderbolt (with Life Orb, however it wasn't needed). The reason I say Recover is the same reason I say no Stealth Rocks. You won't see them, and if you do, the WORST you'll see is Toxic Spikes, which if you play your cards right won't affect you. Psychic over Ice Beam because Kingdra already has it, and Starmie could use the STAB. If you wan't, you could make this Choice Specs or Choice Scarf, and replace Recover with some kind of Hidden Power that you see provides the most help, but either way is just as good.
    Weather teams are awesome in online play, but in the Tower can be randomly shut down out of nowhere. Things like Tyranitar coming in and screwing up your set up get that free turn from you trying to put your weather back up. You do NOT want to give that guy a free turn, TRUST ME. @__@ However, with a good bulky lead like Bronzong, you can make it slightly more reliable. See how it works, you never know what could excel.

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    Thanks for the help VanillaThunderbolt. And also what should my EV spread be for Starmie? Maybe more in HP?

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    Ok, so I got the gold print in the Hall and Arcade, and now I'm trying to get 100 wins in the Battle Tower. I'm going to use a Garchomp with SD/EQ/Outrage/Fire Fang holding a life orb as a physical sweeper, and a Porygon-Z holding a focus sash with Tri Attack/BoltBeam/Agility as a special sweeper. In front will be a Bronzong holding a light clay with Reflect/Light Screen/Earthquake/filler as a dual-screening wall. What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by exordia View Post
    Thanks for the help VanillaThunderbolt. And also what should my EV spread be for Starmie? Maybe more in HP?
    Depends really. I know at 168 Speed, it outspeeds everything I hate, but mine is a Lead, and it also has Ice Beam. I would tell you to play Factory to get a good feel for what you should be afraid of because it either a) kicked your ass HARD or b) let you kick ass too easily.

    Oh btw, Endure/Reversal Arcanine is probably the fastest threat there after Salac boost, so just browse until you know the threats, and build them accordingly.

    Psypokes has a good EV Listing for all the Pokes, and theres tons ov EV/IV Calculators out there, and you could make your own if you wanted to (I did with Excel, just threw in damage calcs and stat calcs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golbat-Man View Post
    Ok, so I got the gold print in the Hall and Arcade, and now I'm trying to get 100 wins in the Battle Tower. I'm going to use a Garchomp with SD/EQ/Outrage/Fire Fang holding a life orb as a physical sweeper, and a Porygon-Z holding a focus sash with Tri Attack/BoltBeam/Agility as a special sweeper. In front will be a Bronzong holding a light clay with Reflect/Light Screen/Earthquake/filler as a dual-screening wall. What do you think?
    Garchomp is good, but it fears Mamoswine and Weavile, and for obvious reasons (taking care of those pseudo-legendary dragons) the snowboarder trainers are much more common in the later rounds. Guess what they carry.

    Porygon-Z is better with Trick Scarf. Download>Adaptability, and make sure you bring it in when it counts. Bolt Beam is cool, but don't even bother with Agility, so replace it with Trick.

    Bronzong makes an AWESOME lead, as aforementioned, and I personally use a Magnezone with the same purpose, but it sues Toxic as well.

    What I suggest is making that Garchomp lead a Dragon Dance or Swords Dance lead, with Dragon Claw/Earthquake/Crunch or Fire Fang... maybe even Stone Edge. Have Garchomp sweep what it can without risking boost turns that could kill you, switch to Bronzong when necesary, boost those defenses, Toxic that opponent (if you can), and switch back to Chomp. Set up while you can, while they steadily go down, and then sweep away.

    That strategy works well with Trick-Z too, because you can trick them into the move that someone is bound to take easily. I suggest Salamence/Dragonite/Altaria/Latias/Latios as the Dancer in that situation, as they all resist that Fighting Type move that comes toward Porygon-Z. Set up behind those screens and resistances, and sweep away. Dragon Dance is better for this than Swords Dance, in my opinion.
    Last edited by VanillaThunderbolt; 28th September 2010 at 08:22 PM.

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    Hate to double post, but all this Tower Talk has me begging to post the team that I'm having a ton of fun of using right now. With good prediction, it gets a +6Atk/Speed Latios behind a Sub with full health ready to kill anything and everything.

    The Lead

    Starmie @Life Orb
    Timid Nature; 116 HP/140 Speed/252 Sp.Atk
    Natural Cure Ability
    ~Surf
    ~Ice Beam
    ~Thunderbolt
    ~Recover



    The Most Annoying Thing Ever

    Mismagius @Choice Scarf
    Timid Nature; 252 Sp.Atk/76 Sp.Def/180 Speed
    Levitate Ability
    ~Memento
    ~Will-o-Wisp/Power Gem
    ~Shadow Ball
    ~Energy Ball



    The Sweeper

    Latios @Leftovers
    Jolly Nature; 252 HP/116 Atk/4 Def/136 Speed
    Levitate Ability
    ~Dragon Dance
    ~Substitute
    ~Dragon Claw
    ~Earthquake



    This team as a whole has one main flaw, and that's the all around weakness to Ghost and Dark. Heavy Bug weakness kinda sucks too. It has its perks though, as its almost completely immune to Ground attack

    Sometimes I use Mismagius as a Lead, and to deal with all those weaknesses, sometimes I swap it with a Dual Screen Toxic Stall Magnezone:



    So, opinions? o -o

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    VanillaThunderbolt, I don't think Garchomp can learn dragon dance... And I'm using an adaptability P-Z, so I could still Scarf it. Better yet, I could use Nasty Plot in place of Agility, and make P-Z hold something like Wise Glasses or something.
    Last edited by Golbat-Man; 29th September 2010 at 08:18 AM.
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    Default Re: TAKE NOTE: All in-game teams go here.

    hey, can some one help me with my team? I only do 4-on-4 though...


    Torterra
    Lv.90
    Nature:Calm
    Gender:Male
    Item: Iron Ball
    Stats
    Attack:216
    Defense:221
    Sp.atk:167
    Sp.def:196
    Speed:143
    HP: 299/299

    Moveset:

    Frenzy Plant
    Leaf Storm
    Giga Impact
    Earthquake

    Charizard
    lv.80
    Nature:Quirky
    Gender:Male
    Item: Charcoal
    Stats
    Attack:171
    Defense:149
    Sp.atk:204
    Sp.def:165
    Speed:211
    HP:238/238

    Moveset:

    Blast Burn
    Giga Impact
    Fly
    Flare Blitz

    Swampert
    lv.68
    Nature:Brave
    Gender:Male
    Item:Splash Plate
    Stats
    Attack:205
    Defense:147
    Sp.atk:141
    Sp.def:151
    Speed:108
    HP:250/250

    Moveset:

    Muddy Water
    Earthquake
    Ice Beam
    Surf


    Typhlosion
    lv.39 (still training)
    Nature:Modest
    Gender: Male
    Item: Leftovers
    Stats
    Attack:76
    Defense:77
    Sp.atk:112
    Sp.def:77
    Speed:97
    HP:114/114

    Moveset:

    Lava Plume
    Blast Burn
    Flame Wheel
    Flamethrower

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    I have to ask, what do you mean you do 4 on 4? I mean, in game you don't erally have a choice...
    but anyhow, here goes my review.
    Don't use Hyper Beam variations. You'll maybe beat the opponent's pokemon, but it's not worth the risk.
    Also, wouldn't recommend having 2 fire types. Since there is no Stealth Rock in game, keep Zard and throw away TYphlosion for something bulky like a Snorlax.
    As for movesets, since It's in-game, you could do something on Torterra like: Stone Edge, Crunch, Wood Hammer, Earthquake.
    This set would give you quite a bit of coverage.
    Also, Charizard could run something like
    Air Slash
    Fire Blast
    Dragon Pulse
    Roost
    Again, for coverage. Swampert looks good.
    Hope I helped!

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    Default Re: TAKE NOTE: All in-game teams go here.

    Thanks! 4-on-4 means you only battle with 4 pokemon.


    i was hoping to set up a teaam that could help in wi-fi battles....

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