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    I have never been able to understand how for every Johto Pokémon in a new game that is not a Gold/Silver remake, the likelyhood of the aforementioned games seeing the light of the day supposedly drop. If Game Freak wanted to re-visit and expand the world of the first generation in the third generation games, did it mean that the Pokémon introduced in the second generation had to be wiped off the face of the earth until those three years had passed again?
    FireRed/LeafGreen's main draw was to collect Pokemon which had not been incarnated into the third generation as of the release of Ruby and Sapphire.
    Considering all old Pokemon are available in Diamond and Pearl, I can't see the appeal of making a GSC remake at this point - Lugia and Ho-oh more readily available? Not to mention the other flaw with such remakes. After recently visiting Kanto, do we really wish to revisit the land again so soon? They'd either have to wait for a while or scrap the Kanto region entirely and construct a new Sevii Island-esque island chain to explore.

    Better to save it for next generation, methinks. In Generation III, GF constructed an artificial need for Gen I remakes. There's no need for them this generation.
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    that's true, but wouldn't you agree that replaying the GSC plot with updated graphics, gameplay, and all that great stuff

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    The plots of the main RPGs of Pokémon are simply not interesting enough to warrant constant revisiting. It's bad enough each new game is simply a variation on the previous one. That's why I find PMD so much more interesting - it's new, it's different, it's not the same thing all over again. (Though I doubt PMD 2, should such a thing come to be, will give that same sense of novelty.)

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    I concur. The plot is one of the things I loved about Mystery Dungeon but if it can't be matched then there shouldn't be a sequal to it.

    As for the GSC remake, I agree with Zeta that Generation V is the best time for it. After all, making a habit of remaking each game only two generations after their initial release would just be pushing it. I would prefer it if we could go a generation without revisiting Kanto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty View Post
    I hope they don't :[ but Game Freak loves money so it's probably unavoidable.
    What do you care? You'd only play the rom anyway.

    I doubt there will be a remake considering all the exclusive GSC pokemon are obtainable via FRLG and Emerald. However, I hope there is one!
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    It's not about what I'd buy, it's the thought of Game Freak putting a great amount of time and resources into something extraneous when they should go into the fifth generation ;[

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty View Post
    It's not about what I'd buy, it's the thought of Game Freak putting a great amount of time and resources into something extraneous when they should go into the fifth generation ;[
    But how much work would a GSC remake really require? The battle system and graphics work is already done. All that really has to be done is build new maps and new trainers and reprogram the badges, etc, most of which are things that can be done with even simple ROM hacking tools in the Third Gen games, and likely wouldn't take long to do with Fourth Gen.

    The hardest part is probably quality assurance testing to prevent surfing through doors, which takes no time from actual game development anyway, except to fix any bugs that are found.

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    As far as I can tell, FRLG took close to a year of development time - having been released over a year after Ruby and Sapphire. A year on GSC remakes either means that the fifth gen gets rushed or that we'll have to once more wait an extra year for it :/

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    How do we know they haven't been working on a GS remake while developing DP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty View Post
    A year on GSC remakes either means that the fifth gen gets rushed or that we'll have to once more wait an extra year for it :/
    What exactly is it that you want? I can see why you would have been happy with 10 months less waiting time for Diamond and Pearl, but what about the previous generation? Did it exhaust itself once we had become accustomed to Ruby and Sapphire?

    A new generation can only provide you with a "breath of fresh air" for so long. It sounds as if you are already counting the days until the announcement of the new main series titles - is it really the climax of our fandom? Is there nothing more to it than seeing if the formula which originally captured us, still works? Are we not meant to enjoy it for what it is?

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    I dunno, but personally I am awaiting what spin-offs we get this gen (Snap Wii! Hey You Pikachu Wii!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGraw View Post
    What do you care? You'd only play the rom anyway.

    I doubt there will be a remake considering all the exclusive GSC pokemon are obtainable via FRLG and Emerald. However, I hope there is one!
    Last I heard, ROM had a little issue known as "not working" where DP is concerned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Figment View Post
    Last I heard, ROM had a little issue known as "not working" where DP is concerned...
    It is merely a matter of time. People like Misty are just waiting it out.
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    Yay, I'm a person like Misty!

    (Not entirely true. I am planning to get DP once they're out in English, regardless of ROM status)
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    Sooooo...watch out!
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    In the off-chance a working emulator is available by US release, I'll use it, but at this point I figure I'll probably just get the game.

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