Thread: Do Yo Think Pre-Ordering Japanese Pokemon Games is Right or Does it Kinda Spoil it.

Personally, I think it's just a waste of time and money, especially if you can't even understand Japanese - id rather like to know what I'm doing and what the others are saying rather than have no clue about it, thank you very much. Not knowing what the heck is going on kinda ruins the fun of the game.

Sure, some of us like spoilers, but really, I think it's pointless unless you understand Japanese.

If you understand Japanese, then good for you. You're basically getting the English games several months earlier.

If you don't, have fun forking over 40 bucks for a waste of time and effort.

As long as the person bought the game and enjoyed whether they know Japanese or not, it's not a waste money to them.

As long as the person bought the game and enjoyed whether they know Japanese or not, it's not a waste money to them.

So buying a game in a language you can't understand isn't a waste of money now?

Bear in mind that Pokemon is not like Super Mario 3D Land, where the dialogue is really a minor part of the game. Pokemon is a game that requires the ability to read what is being said.

Originally Posted by Kree

So buying a game in a language you can't understand isn't a waste of money now?

Who are you to decide? Many people hardly pay attention to dialogue after playing many years, and it's mostly pretty straightforward otherwise. If you just want to test the new things with the game, I would hardly say it would be a waste of money, the pokémon are still the same.

Also, the title of this thread is pretty way off. "Is it right", what kind of question is that? As for spoiling it, does that even matter when you can have loads of information about the game without even buying it?

I'm pretty sure spoilers would still be floating around regardless of importers.

Just saying.

Originally Posted by Flare Blitz

I'm pretty sure spoilers would still be floating around regardless of importers.

Just saying.

But they would be much less abundant and more easily avoided.

Originally Posted by toonytown

But they would be much less abundant and more easily avoided.

Not really. There's load of pre-release coverage, and what has usually happened with the DS games is that the ROM get dumped reasonably quickly, opening up for extraction of all kinds of data, not to mention loads of people will play it like that anyways (I'm not going to say this is a good/bad thing, all I'm saying is that it happens, regardless of what we think about it).

I don't. It gives me a lesser appreciation of the game's story.

I don't really have an opinion on whether or not other people should buy it in Japanese or play it early. Like someone above me, I don't think "is right" is the best way to word it.

If you have the money (or aren't buying it with your money) by all means go ahead. I know beginning Japanese (high school offered it), I'm excited for them to come out, but I wouldn't spend the $40-$60 dollars on a Japanese copy of a game when I can just wait a few months for it to come out in English [or Spanish or French] so I could understand it fully.

The thing that bothers me is that Spoilers are discussed in this thread without warning (Hello! Use spoiler tags!). I had been doing a pretty good job avoiding spoilers until now because I personally don't like them, don't go out of my way to youtube them, and would really like to play the game myself and discover all this my first time through. I'm not upset that I now know _____ and _____ are Gym leaders or Bunnies or Presidents or whatnot, I really have never cared about that stuff, just be courteous and put that info in a Spoiler tag, please! Especially since this thread is focused partially on Spoilers!

For example,

I'm beta-testing Dawnguard, but you don't see me spoiling plot points and quests and its epic-ness all over the place.

Originally Posted by Kree

So buying a game in a language you can't understand isn't a waste of money now?

What is or isn't a waste of money is only for the person spending the money to decide. If the person in question enjoys the game, and it fulfilled whatever expectations he/she had of it, then it's not a waste of money. If I bought a game in my native language and I hated it, then that was, to me, a complete waste of money. But, if I buy a game in a language I don't completely understand, and I loved every minute of it (as was the case with White and many other games I've imported) then I got my money's worth. The fact that it's in a language I'm learning actually makes it more fun to me, and if I can actually learn from it, then I got my money's worth and then some.

People enjoy games in different ways. You like to play games in a language you understand so you can get the most out of the story. That's great, I'm happy for you, I truly hope you have hours of fun with it. And I have just as much fun playing a game I love, and at the same time furthering my knowledge of a language that I have chosen to learn. So how am I "wrong" for enjoying the game in that way?

But hey, no worries, mate. I'll go waste me money in whatever way I deem fit, and the fact that it rustles some people's jimmies is of no consequence to me.

But, if I buy a game in a language I don't completely understand, and I loved every minute of it (as was the case with White and many other games I've imported) then I got my money's worth. The fact that it's in a language I'm learning actually makes it more fun to me, and if I can actually learn from it, then I got my money's worth and then some.

Did you even read what I said?

You're assuming that Japanese is a language you understand at least partially, or are attempting to learn.

I'm assuming that Japanese is a language you cannot understand period and are not attempting to learn.

If you just want to test the new things with the game, I would hardly say it would be a waste of money, the pokémon are still the same.

Pretty true.

Originally Posted by Kree

But, if I buy a game in a language I don't completely understand, and I loved every minute of it (as was the case with White and many other games I've imported) then I got my money's worth. The fact that it's in a language I'm learning actually makes it more fun to me, and if I can actually learn from it, then I got my money's worth and then some.

Did you even read what I said?

You're assuming that Japanese is a language you understand at least partially, or are attempting to learn.

I'm assuming that Japanese is a language you cannot understand period and are not attempting to learn.

Even in this case, the point still stands that if a person who has absolutely no knowledge of the Japanese language imports a game that has text entirely in Japanese still enjoys playing that game, then in that person's eyes, the purchase was not a waste of money. You may consider it a waste of money, and therefore do not choose to import, but your choice is not the same choice that everyone else will choose.

Also, as far as spoilers go, it's certainly true that the internet is a wretched hive of scum and spoilers. However, we all know this fact. The internet is not going to stop spoiling things just because you want it to. It is entirely up to you to avoid these spoilers if you want your experience to remain pure. For example: why on earth would you choose to follow BulbaNews Now on Twitter, when you KNOW that they're going to be posting such spoilers the instant they know about them? If you are the sort of person who enjoys watching Let's Plays and other such video walkthroughs, it is simply up to you to choose not to watch those videos.

Originally Posted by Purellian

. However, we all know this fact. The internet is not going to stop spoiling things just because you want it to. It is entirely up to you to avoid these spoilers if you want your experience to remain pure. For example: why on earth would you choose to follow BulbaNews Now on Twitter, when you KNOW that they're going to be posting such spoilers the instant they know about them? If you are the sort of person who enjoys watching Let's Plays and other such video walkthroughs, it is simply up to you to choose not to watch those videos.

That's the problem. Someone like me might NOT know that BNN would post outright spoilers in the clear. I wasn't expecting them to post major plot and character points out in the clear, and I woke up to a massive flood of such spoilers on my Twitter timeline. I had followed them solely for breaking news, and I learned my lesson.

So, BNN, twitter subset of BulbaNews with the expressed purpose of getting you news as soon as it arrives (i.e., not verified) isn't obvious enough that they're going to be reporting spoilers? Why else would you bother following BNN when it's only useful around these big news moments. It's fairly obvious what constitutes as "Breaking News" in a Pokemon forum.