Character Discussion Thread

bluesun · 6th July 2012, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by matt0044

Originally Posted by Ivysaur

Originally Posted by matt0044

Does the old Team Plasma help you against Neo Team Plasma?

Nope, they're just chilling at a house in Driftveil for most of the game. Nothing really special.

And what are they doing there?

Looking after the Pokemon that Team Plasma of two years ago stole, that have not yet been reunited with their trainers.

Also, they do help you quite a bit. The old Team Plasma grunt that you meet on the bridge in Driftveil masquerades as a new Team Plasma grunt, and helps you through puzzles and guides you in the Frigate and the Giant Chasm.

Ivysaur · 6th July 2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by bluesun

Also, they do help you quite a bit. The old Team Plasma grunt that you meet on the bridge in Driftveil masquerades as a new Team Plasma grunt, and helps you through puzzles and guides you in the Frigate and the Giant Chasm.

Oh, I didn't know about that. That's actually pretty cool.

Ziggy Stardust · 6th July 2012, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by bluesun

Originally Posted by matt0044

Originally Posted by Ivysaur

Originally Posted by matt0044

Does the old Team Plasma help you against Neo Team Plasma?

Nope, they're just chilling at a house in Driftveil for most of the game. Nothing really special.

And what are they doing there?

Looking after the Pokemon that Team Plasma of two years ago stole, that have not yet been reunited with their trainers.

Also, they do help you quite a bit. The old Team Plasma grunt that you meet on the bridge in Driftveil masquerades as a new Team Plasma grunt, and helps you through puzzles and guides you in the Frigate and the Giant Chasm.

Diminished, nearly disbanded, underpowered, they can't do much more to help. In fact, entrusting you a top percentage Zorua and sending a spy to New Team Plasma is a big thing.

In the back room of the Plasma house there's a grunt with a Patrat. I remember a grunt in BW commenting he got attached with a Patrat and unwilling to free it, I guess it's the same, no?

The Outrage · 6th July 2012, 07:17 PM

Pokémon Black 2 & Pokémon White 2 - N's Pokémon

So, given that Zorua had a set nature, I was wondering if his other Pokemon did as well, and evidently, they do. Now, I want to know if the gender is set as well. I mean it should be, given that we've encountered them in BW...but then, Red's Pikachu should also have a set gender but didn't. Let's hope Game Freak didn't screw this one up.

Some of them have an okay nature I guess....but others don't. His Darmanitan clearly is being made out to be used as Zen-Mode with its Calm Nature. I wonder....do they have high IV's too? It would be awesome for breeding purposes.

EDIT:

Also, N has a second Woobat in the intro...I know its overkill, but it would have been nice to catch both. Personally, I think the Darumaka he uses and the Zoroark you get are the children of the Darmanitan in that image and the Zoroark he uses in his final battle.

PKMN Trainer Faye · 7th July 2012, 04:24 PM

So did N have 2 Klinks? We can catch the one he released, but in BW he has a Klinklang in the final battle, doesn't he?

The Outrage · 7th July 2012, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by FairyRed

So did N have 2 Klinks? We can catch the one he released, but in BW he has a Klinklang in the final battle, doesn't he?

Well, it seems as though he had two, but we don't catch any of his Fifth Battle Pokemon (other than the dragon). It's entirely possible these ones may have been Pokemon that Team Plasma liberated given that you can't catch fossils in the wild.

Seraphen · 13th July 2012, 09:30 AM

Man, N's weather teams are awesome! I wish we had more trainers like him!

The Outrage · 14th July 2012, 02:08 AM

Someone needs to tell me where such high resolution Iris artwork came from.

The dress looks much better here than in her sprite, which made it seem over-sized.

EDIT: http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/characters/character12.html

The website updated. Looks like Ghetsis lost an arm or something.

Silktree · 14th July 2012, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by The Outrage

Someone needs to tell me where such high resolution Iris artwork came from.

The official website, which has been updated. I think that Banjiro will be given artwork next month, but there aren't any other notable characters with new designs, are there? Technically, the Shadow Triad deserve new artwork due to not having any to begin with. But I wouldn't be surprised if they were ignored again like Athena and Concordia, who actually have new sprites and aren't replicas of each other.

Signas · 14th July 2012, 02:12 AM

Just took a look at the new artwork, and damn. Ghetsis looks like a credible villain now:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/2/27/Black_2_White_2_Ghetsis.png

He no longer looks like a YuGiOh villain who wandered into Pokemon by mistake. Though I wonder if it's intentional that his arm is still never being shown.

The Outrage · 14th July 2012, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by Silktree

Originally Posted by The Outrage

Someone needs to tell me where such high resolution Iris artwork came from.

The official website, which has been updated. I think that Banjiro and the Shadow Triad will be given artwork next month, but there aren't any other notable characters with new designs, are there?

I hope they get new artwork, but it seems weird to just have a random row with one character in it, but yeah, there aren't any notable post-game characters. If there's anyone else notable, I'd say Rood given that he's basically the head of the other Team Plasma now. And if Game Freak wants to be nice and finish up our Team Plasma family, Anthea and Concordia since they got updated sprites. Though, I'd think the unnamed old-Plasma grunt who helps you would be more deserving of an original design than those two.

Though, I'm not too excited about the Shadow Triad since their debut in the animated trailer.

Originally Posted by Signas

Just took a look at the new artwork, and damn. Ghetsis looks like a credible villain now:

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/2/27/Black_2_White_2_Ghetsis.png

He no longer looks like a YuGiOh villain who wandered into Pokemon by mistake. Though I wonder if it's intentional that his arm is still never being shown.

He certainly looks scrawnier than I'd assume.

Silktree · 14th July 2012, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Outrage

I hope they get new artwork, but it seems weird to just have a random row with one character in it, but yeah, there aren't any notable post-game characters. If there's anyone else notable, I'd say Rood given that he's basically the head of the other Team Plasma now. And if Game Freak wants to be nice, Anthea and Concordia since they got updated sprites.

Anthea, Concordia and Rood probably won't get that treatment since they already appear as sprites on N's page. Not only are the Shadow Triad unlikely for the reasons you and I listed, but they also appear in sprite form on this page.

Signas · 14th July 2012, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Outrage

He certainly looks scrawnier than I'd assume.

I thought the same, but I suppose I was so used to seeing him in that bulky robe, I just sort of associated him with being large.

EDIT: Though I do like the idea of him being scrawny. Makes him seem like his madness at being defeated since last time has taken a toll on his health or something.

smalllady · 14th July 2012, 02:23 AM

Indeed, he does look scrawny. I guess we'll never know the story behind his left arm (and eye), or why his arm was shown as being completely black in B/W's opening.