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    Okay, well then maybe there's some Gameplay and Story Segregation going on here.

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    The Shadow Triad are also rematchable every season, although I can't imagine why. Like other games, I'd be willing to bet that most of the post-game will not be considered canon should B2W2's events be referenced in a future game.
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    Post-game should only be considered non-canon if it directly contradicts something else. I'd say the first match for the Shadow Triad could be canon but the rest is just for the sake of battling....unless your theory is the Shadow Triad is stalking the PC for what they did to Ghetsis.

    As for N, at least now I know why that B/W Roster had a list for N having four elemental teams. I don't know why I didn't put it together that it was weather teams.
    Quote Originally Posted by smalllady View Post
    Talk about derailing a character. Why on earth would he stay in his castle to re-challenge the player character? I know he says he doesn't mind the idea of battles now, but this is totally stretching it. I'm just hoping most of the post-game is non-canon.
    The battles are after you catch every single one of his B/W Pokemon plus the ones who made a cameo in the openning sequence. It's not as if he said "I'm gonna go off now! Bye!" and stayed, he actually did leave.

    What would have been awesome though is if they had walking Pokemon return, or at least the animation for battle so that the Pokemon enter the battles from the side like trainers do rather than out of a Pokeball for N.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    The battles are after you catch every single one of his B/W Pokemon plus the ones who made a cameo in the openning sequence. It's not as if he said "I'm gonna go off now! Bye!" and stayed, he actually did leave.
    His dialogue makes no indication of that: "Did their dream come true... And will we ever meet again... I will set out on a journey again." It certainly doesn't seem that he's left Unova since he released his dragon.

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    Long after this, if you have captured all of N's Pokémon, you will be able to rechallenge N as he wonders about the previous game's Trainer and if he achieved his dream. The team N uses changes on subsequent rebattles and all focuses on a different type of weather and are based on the season. Spring he uses his Water-type team, Summer his Fire-type team, Autumn his Sandstorm-team and Winter his Ice-type team. The battles are incredibly tough, and the weather is set up instantly using the lead Pokémon's ability. He can be rebattled at will.
    Am I the only one who thinks this is cool? I mean, yeah, it's a little odd that N would stay around like that, but getting to rematch a character like N with 4 different weather teams sounds awesome to me!

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    Well, quite frankly I'm torn between being annoyed with the plot and finally having a good use for a team of level 100 Pokemon.

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    N is just being Metagame savvy :/

    I guess him being battled like this at the very end makes him basically BW2's version of Red/Steven.

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    But, uh...what the hell is this thing?

    Its the Original Dragon! : D Dragon/Poison type.

    Or... its the anti-Kami that is against all nature that opposes the real nature based Kami. Seriously though, that could have been used as a poison Pokemon with the ability levitate.
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    I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet but....Red's hair has been retcon'd back to its original black colour from his Gen I days.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet but....Red's hair has been retcon'd back to its original black colour from his Gen I days.....
    Maybe he just stole Elesa's hair dye? lol speaking of which couldn't there be a bit of trivia that Elesa is the only Electric Gym Leader without blonde hair (exluding Wallace who's hair is white but was probably blond when he was younger)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet but....Red's hair has been retcon'd back to its original black colour from his Gen I days.....
    I guess I kind of see it in his OW sprite, but I don't really notice any difference between his HGSS and B2W2 battle sprites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Articwolf10 View Post
    (exluding Wallace who's hair is white but was probably blond when he was younger)
    Wallace has blue hair.


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    Quote Originally Posted by smalllady View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Articwolf10 View Post
    (exluding Wallace who's hair is white but was probably blond when he was younger)
    Wallace has blue hair.

    I think he meant Wattson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivysaur View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet but....Red's hair has been retcon'd back to its original black colour from his Gen I days.....
    I guess I kind of see it in his OW sprite, but I don't really notice any difference between his HGSS and B2W2 battle sprites.
    That's because they barely show any hair in his battle sprite. What's weird though is that the side view also shows that his hair is a bit spiker compared to his HgSs one, but again, you can't see it at the front. I don't know what's with Game Freak and reworking the sprite in every angle except the front.

    His HgSs battlesprite has black hair as well, or at least none of the brown can be seen.

    EDIT: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?575336-Serebii-net-Black-2-White-2-Discovery-Thread/page15

    According to Serebii, N's AI is supposed to be incredibly good, even outside of Challenge Mode. I guess that goes hand in hand with him being a genius. Evidently, one of the triggers for this battle is also to have spent time with him on the Ferris Wheel? So much for "I'm going to look for Hilbert/Hilda!"--though perhaps he was looking and just couldn't find them. Or had no affordable way to leave Unova without his dragon.

    EDIT 2: http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/pokemon-black-and-white-2/#en-us/characters/gymleader/details-marlon
    Apparently, their attempt at Shizui's accent is to just give him an informal way of talkin'...so its not really an accent so much as a register.

    His easygoing demeanor hides some profound philosophical thinking about Pokémon and life.
    I really can't help but laugh since this keeps reminding me of Shizui basically saying "no" to when he was asked if he was going to help with the Plasma Frigate. Also, favourite quote: "'Cause the ocean accepts all rivers!"
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    Yeah, I agree, N's character was totally derailed.

    I mean, why in the world would a socially-awkward man-child spend his time raising four competitive, Smogon-viable teams?
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    Really annoyed with post-game N right now. >_>

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