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    Default All pokedex 3D Pro models

    I've searched all across the forums for a "Pokedex 3D Pro discussion thread" but couldn't find one so i just post these here :p

    Kanto

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    Hoenn

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    I still think any future 3DS main series game should use a more stylistic models. Masuda claims only 2D sprites are artistic, well, he should take a look at games like Skyward Sword and try to make that statement again. If he's more into making it look artistic, then Game Freak should go and make their own sprites.

    I'm not saying these models aren't good, I just don't think the style would work well with human characters and other overworld objects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    I still think any future 3DS main series game should use a more stylistic models. Masuda claims only 2D sprites are artistic, well, he should take a look at games like Skyward Sword and try to make that statement again. If he's more into making it look artistic, then Game Freak should go and make their own sprites.

    I'm not saying these models aren't good, I just don't think the style would work well with human characters and other overworld objects.
    Slightly Off-Topic: Maybe they'll use human versions of the Pokemon Rumble models as overworld sprites.

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    How do you get the Pokémon? Is it the same stupid method that the regular Pokédex 3D uses (unlocks only one Pokémon a day)?

    I hope all the Pokémon are unlocked from the start...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic10158 View Post
    How do you get the Pokémon? Is it the same stupid method that the regular Pokédex 3D uses (unlocks only one Pokémon a day)?

    I hope all the Pokémon are unlocked from the start...
    All are there from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    I'm not saying these models aren't good,
    I'd say that they aren't good. They look like rubber toys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silktree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    I'm not saying these models aren't good,
    I'd say that they aren't good. They look like rubber toys.
    I have to agree, but I can see why. If they had made the models more detailed, it might have ended up making the download a LOT bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silktree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Outrage View Post
    I'm not saying these models aren't good,
    I'd say that they aren't good. They look like rubber toys.
    Do you prefer those old polygon messes from battle Revolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshawott View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonic10158 View Post
    How do you get the Pokémon? Is it the same stupid method that the regular Pokédex 3D uses (unlocks only one Pokémon a day)?

    I hope all the Pokémon are unlocked from the start...
    All are there from the start.
    Thanks! I am officially very excited for this!

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    Nothing (too) wrong with the models themselves. It's mostly that choise in lighting and shadows that makes them look a bit awkward -- the space scenary is probably the worst one in that sector. I quite agree with The Outrage though; a more simplistic shading, like cel shading, would give Pokémon justice. Especially considering that they aren't looking too much on details in textures, that's probably the way to go in a 3DS game.

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    You guys are forgetting the 3DS graphical system is no stronger than that of the Wii so of course the models won't be Smash Bros. style realistic, also im pretty sure Creatures reason behind making Pokedex 3D as well as redoing all the gen I, II, III and IV models was to have them ready for Game freak to use in Gen VI i doubt GF would try to make new cel-shaded models for 647+ pokemon when there's a fresh batch that's just been made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virizion's Lover View Post
    You guys are forgetting the 3DS graphical system is no stronger than that of the Wii so of course the models won't be Smash Bros. style realistic, also im pretty sure Creatures reason behind making Pokedex 3D as well as redoing all the gen I, II, III and IV models was to have them ready for Game freak to use in Gen VI i doubt GF would try to make new cel-shaded models for 647+ pokemon when there's a fresh batch that's just been made.
    A comparison between Wii and 3DS's graphical capabilities is another topic, but do note that we are discussing the models from an artistic perfective, which has nothing to do with technical matters. 3D models are typically very scalable. Once the shapes are made, it's up to how detailed textures are, what kind of shading is applied, and other matters like these. The same models could basically be used in a Wii, 3DS or Wii U game -- and the quality difference could still be apparent.

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    I don't like them very much... They look like plastic toys. I'm happy we don't have the polygonal messes that Kangaskhan, Blastoise, Mewtwo, Breloom, Seviper and others were, but still... They also look too childish. Charizard doesn't transmit that "dragon-y" fierce look anymore, etc. Props to them for changing some Pokémon's stances, like Persian and Vaporeon (even though I liked Vaporeon's older stance, and I despised Persian's with a passion). Jolteon had its stance animation changed a little bit too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virizion's Lover View Post
    You guys are forgetting the 3DS graphical system is no stronger than that of the Wii so of course the models won't be Smash Bros. style realistic, also im pretty sure Creatures reason behind making Pokedex 3D as well as redoing all the gen I, II, III and IV models was to have them ready for Game freak to use in Gen VI i doubt GF would try to make new cel-shaded models for 647+ pokemon when there's a fresh batch that's just been made.
    That kind of thinking ("there's already existing models") is what had Genius Sonority use Stadium models all the way onto the Wii. And no, I am not forgetting that it is "no stronger than the Wii", hence why I used a Wii game as an example on how 3D models can be artistic.

    These are not. Masuda can either swallow his words and admit he's simply calling 2D sprites artistic (and they can be) just so they don't have to move to 3D, or show us that art actually means something to them regardless of 2D or 3D graphics.

    And its not like they have to redo the models from scratch. The main issue is the lighting and texture used.

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    I liked Infernape's PBR pose better. D: Other than that, they look quite spiffy. Is this out in the US? Shoot, I didn't even notice.

    Quote Originally Posted by sonic10158 View Post
    How do you get the Pokémon? Is it the same stupid method that the regular Pokédex 3D uses (unlocks only one Pokémon a day)?

    I hope all the Pokémon are unlocked from the start...
    I've always gotten a maximum of 3 Pokemon a day. After receiving a new Pokemon, I quit the thingy and then come back after like 10 minutes.
    Signature is a WIP for the moment.
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