Thread: Your favorite 2nd form starter

Second stages. I generally don't like most of them, preffering other forms. And outright really disliking one despite the rest being amazing (hello Combusken)

Except for Ivysaur. I really can say Ivysaur is the only starter I like the second stage the most, and I really like Ivysaur in itself too (and the whole line).


Anyway let's go on detail:

- Charmeleon: Ugh. Charmander is cute, and I already explained several times how I like Charizard... But Charmeleon is basically Charmander losing everything I like of it and gaining everything I don't like of Charizard.

- Wartortle: This, on the other hand, I do like. Though I can't really tell if I like Blastoise or Wartortle better in either case.

- Bayleef: It took me a while to get warmed up on this one. Chikorita is basically pure cuteness and Meganium is friendly. Meanwhile Bayleef is very different from the whole line. Because it's such a drastic change from Chikorita I wasn't sure what to think of it, but how it is yellowed, with a bit more open leaves collar and a bitten off leaf shows an interesting personality change, that makes me wonder why did it get ditched and turn back to Chikorita's former "cute and friendly" instead of becoming something different. It still manages to be a cool design in the middle of a line centered in being nice and cute, and I think it's a great design for a middle stage.

- Quilava: Actually, I think I was wrong before. I might like Quilava better than Cyndaquil or Typhlosion... and I do like the line overall, but not as much as Ivysaur. In any case, to me this is the most iconic member of this line, for some reason.

- Grovyle: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon? What is that and why would I be biased for it?

- Combusken: This thing. This is by far the worst. Perhaps not on its own... But, Torchic is my favorite starter. Blaziken is my favorite starter. I think Torchic is easilly the cutest of all the first stages. And Blaziken is badass pokemonified. The contrast between the two is so great, yet it works perfectly... Until Combusken comes in. Then again, birds tend to look ugly when they turn from chicks into adults.

- Dewott: Dewott is good, and I know most people love it and hate Samurott. But I like the final form better. I do think it's a line that looks better as it evolves, though.

The rest I don't particularly care about.

Quilava, Grovyle, and Servine for me. Servine has my favorite game cry!

Quilava, Grovyl, and Servine because they all look cool and graceful

Dewott, Servine and Quilava. Dewott and Quilava are both better designed, imo, than their final forms even.

It's hard to choose between Ivysaur and Wartortle. But my love of water type starters has pushed me to give an edge to Wartortle.

Grovyle is my favourite, but I'm fond of Marshtomp and Servine.

Grovyle: Thanks to Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2, I will never be able to see Grovyle as anything other than an awesome and brave hero. I was so relieved to discover that

he and all the other Pokemon of the future survived the alteration of the past.

Marshtomp: Mudkip is alright, but it's Marshtomp's new Ground type that makes the Water starter of Hoenn the best choice for those games. Makes Wattson so much easier.

Servine: Like a bigger and stronger Snivy, only with the most sarcastic cry of any Pokemon. How could I not love that?

I love any form of the Kanto's and I always thought Dewott was cool looking especially with it's pre-evo and after evo. Though I think quilava may be my favorite since I find it the cutest

My favourite is Ivysaur and has been for a long time. I think I like it because it is still cute but also tough.

Croconaw. It's reminds me of Yoshi and I actually hate when it becomes Feraligatr, but I need the stat increase to beat the game. Honestly, it rare for me to like the second form of any pokemon. I think they're meant to represent puberty; that awkward middle ground between not being a cute as a kid, but not quite the beautiful/handsome adult yet.

Quilava, easily. I like the other ones fine, but Quilava definitely takes the cake. It is so cute and at the same time looks strong. A lot of the other 2nd forms don't look cute, and haven't gotten to look really strong either. I love my Quilava so much that I refuse to let it evolve in my Heartgold game, and I have beaten the game and everything.

Grovyle. I really like its design, especially since they made the leaves more green-looking in the later games.

Originally Posted by AgentX

Grovyle. I really like its design, especially since they made the leaves more green-looking in the later games.

Yes, this! Exactly! I hated the blue leaves! You are a genius! I love your brain!

Originally Posted by Tricky Kipper

Originally Posted by AgentX

Grovyle. I really like its design, especially since they made the leaves more green-looking in the later games.

Yes, this! Exactly! I hated the blue leaves! You are a genius! I love your brain!

Hahaha, thank you! :) Just now, I looked back at the previous replies and realized that you said it first, so I'm sorry for unwittingly copying your thoughts. :P

I think the only starter line I love so much that I collect is the Tepig line (I normally only collect the final evos), so Pignite it is! I don't understand how people can dislike him. I think he is really cute. ^^

Wartortle.i like its design.especially its tail.lol:P