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    Angry Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    I recently watched the English version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pExn-S7WduQ&feature=related) of the Giovanni event battle in HG/SS and noticed a few extremely noticeable quotes and a mysterious noise.

    After Giovanni trembles (literally) from defeat and makes his leave, the normal *walking out cave* sound effect isn't heard, and instead there is this *SPLASH* sound followed by dead silence. As Giovanni's secret hideout was in Tohjo Falls, the entrance was directly next to the rapid waters and he could've committed (or atleast) suicide.

    After the *SPLASH* sound, the radio signals in from the Goldenrod Radio Tower Team Rocket members "Where has Giovanni gone? I wonder if he's coming..." As if to give you the assumption that he has forever vanished.

    Ethan: "They keep calling their boss. I feel sorry that they don't know he's not coming".
    Giovanni never told Ethan or the protaganist that he won't go to Goldenrod, how did Ethan know?
    Does anyone agree with me that Giovanni might've committed suicide?

    Giovanni's actions and backgrounds were much more melodramatic and realistic than (for lets say...) Cyrus (Who wanted to make a new universe without soul). Team Rocket committed actual crimes like burglary, Pokemon slaughter, hostage standoffs, and kidnappings.

    Other Alternate Theories Thought Up

    1. Giovanni used Waterfall to get out of Tohjo Falls, thats why there was a splash noise.

    Reason to disagree: None of Giovanni's Pokemon are capable of using Waterfall, and to get to his hideout, you go through the Kanto entrance. Which has no need for the Waterfall HM.

    2. Giovanni dived and swam out.

    Reason to disagree: Sharp rocks! High cliffs! Deadly!

    3. Gone to a secret island to enjoy his life with John Lennon, Jimmy Hendrix, 2Pac, and Michael Jackson.

    Reason to AGREE: OHHH YAAA
    Last edited by Feng; 8th June 2010 at 12:36 AM.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    Yes! Finally, another believer! I thought Keegman and I were the only ones.

    I do agree. Everything about that scene screams suicide.

    Evil Figment (7:59:44 PM): Ryuu, however shakily you started, I've got to hand it to you that you earned my respect the hard way.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    5:17
    "The precious dream of Team Rocket has been nothing but an illusion."
    (Splash)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pExn-S7WduQ&feature=related

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    Welcome to the group, feng. We have such glooooooooorious things to shooooow you...... *creepy hand waves*
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    I think instead of a quote, I might just start listing the number of people whose signatures contain quotes by me. My goal is to be in ALL OF THEM.

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    Welcome to the group, feng. We have such glooooooooorious things to shooooow you...... *creepy hand waves*
    O_o

    ... well do you agree with me?!

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    Even if he tried, there's no way a jump from that midpoint would kill him, and he'd have to go to the bottom to get to the top. He jumps out of that level, he'll just end up really wet. So sorry Gio, but if you really want to off yourself, you'll have to pick a different spot.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    Well, it's not like you can jump from those cliffs on a regular basis.

    Evil Figment (7:59:44 PM): Ryuu, however shakily you started, I've got to hand it to you that you earned my respect the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feng277394 View Post
    O_o

    ... well do you agree with me?!
    Ryuu already told you I did!
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    I think instead of a quote, I might just start listing the number of people whose signatures contain quotes by me. My goal is to be in ALL OF THEM.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Mask Marauder View Post
    Even if he tried, there's no way a jump from that midpoint would kill him, and he'd have to go to the bottom to get to the top. He jumps out of that level, he'll just end up really wet. So sorry Gio, but if you really want to off yourself, you'll have to pick a different spot.
    Though, It still seems that its suicide cause he is never seen again after and the scene ends in cold, silence which then the radio screeches "... Hey! Where has Giovanni gone?" Assuming that he is gone forever.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    That would be so dark, but... I wouldn't be surprised. I hope he didn't, I like Giovanni, but at the same time, it is possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Mask Marauder View Post
    Even if he tried, there's no way a jump from that midpoint would kill him, and he'd have to go to the bottom to get to the top. He jumps out of that level, he'll just end up really wet. So sorry Gio, but if you really want to off yourself, you'll have to pick a different spot.
    Maybe there was sharp rocks at the bottom or something [/lol]

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuutakesh! View Post
    Well, it's not like you can jump from those cliffs on a regular basis.
    However, you *can* jump from holes in the ground onto ice or stone below, from some unknown distance. And the fall in the lighthouse--onto whatever the lighthouse is made of (cement?)--is farther than that waterfall.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    He could have always drowned himself.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    Originally posted by Iron Mask Marauder
    However, you *can* jump from holes in the ground onto ice or stone below, from some unknown distance. And the fall in the lighthouse--onto whatever the lighthouse is made of (cement?)--is farther than that waterfall.
    Oh well even if he died or didn't HE still might've attempted to commit suicide OR atleast the fact that he might've jumped into the water.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    The scene is just really dramatic and sudden. I think we can all agree something happened. Otherwise, it's a pointless sound.

    Evil Figment (7:59:44 PM): Ryuu, however shakily you started, I've got to hand it to you that you earned my respect the hard way.

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    Default Re: Theory: Did Giovanni Commit Suicide in HG/SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by feng277394 View Post
    Oh well even if he died or didn't HE still might've attempted to commit suicide OR atleast the fact that he might've jumped into the water.
    Yeah, that's what I was saying, that he might have been TRYING to kill himself. I just doubt that he actually managed to in that scene.

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