Regarding the Azure Flute

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    Default Regarding the Azure Flute

    We all know (or should know) that the Azure Flute, the original item to obtain Arceus, was never released by Nintendo for reasons unknown. So, since the event never happened anywhere, does that mean we should eliminate it from game "canon"?

    I say yes.

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    I disagree. It's coded into the game, it works, it does something. Yeah, it hasn't been released, but it does exist. So I say it should stay.

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuutakeshi View Post
    I disagree. It's coded into the game, it works, it does something. Yeah, it hasn't been released, but it does exist. So I say it should stay.
    Yeah me and few other people found out that it was coded into the game so I believe it is canon

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    Since it actually does something and thus isn't a beta item, I say it's canon.


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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    And since Arceus is necessary in another game(HGSS, for the Sinjoh Ruins Event) its canon.

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    It's canon. TPCi being too lazy to actually release it doesn't make that not so. What I still wonder about is why the Sinjoh Ruins were coded to be activated a second time with a Hall of Origin Arceus. Did they intend to release the Azure Flute at some point after Hg/Ss released, but never got around to it?

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    Lightbulb Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    My brother actually got an Azure Flute as a Mystery Gift from PBR. Does that count as a release?
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    Cool Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    Quote Originally Posted by Cult Of Personality View Post
    My brother actually got an Azure Flute as a Mystery Gift from PBR. Does that count as a release?
    and how was that managed? (-.0)

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    Nah, it's not canon. No more than all the other scrapped ideas, at least.


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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    It's canon. It's pretty obvious they wanted to make it an event, unlike Missingno., the Gen II Safari Zone, and the 8th and 9th Sevii Islands.

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    Even if it was coded into the games, the idea to release it ANYWHERE was obviously scrapped. Except for that one guy who said he got it through PBR (which I doubt because he hasn't replied again).

    So my opinion is, since Nintendo doesn't want it to be canon (by releasing it, thus making it canon like Arceus in 2009), it shouldn't be canon.

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    I say it is. Saying it's not is like saying Mew wasn't canon in the original games.

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    It's as good as canon by virtue of being the only way to explain how Arceus ended up in the Ruins of Alph and then the Sinjoh Ruins; "fateful encounter" doesn't exactly cut it. The same goes for the GS Ball: The event might not have been carried over to the HGSS, but how else would we explain the fact that Celebi just conveniently showed up in Ilex Forest to initiate time travel?

    The only reason Arceus and Celebi were directly distributed is that the Pokémon Company needed to promote the (otherwise luckluster) movies. Had Generation IV lasted longer, I fully believe that both Arceus and Celebi would have had Wi-Fi events much like Darkrai and Shaymin did.

    I'd sooner question the validity of the Regigigas event in Platinum. Where did that Regigigas come from? Obviously not from Snowpoint Temple, as there is another Regigigas there for which the Regis are needed (be they the ones from Hoenn or those unlocked through the event in Sinnoh). This is a plothole if I ever saw one, and I dare say that the shiny legendary beasts are even worse. The Pikachu-colored Pichu is acceptable in that Ethan/Lyra could have found it in any number of ways (most notably through the Odd Egg).
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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    The Azure Flute was discovered during the first sprite rips of the game.

    Anyone with an AR can hack in the Azure Flute "event" to get the item, then proceed to Mt. Coronet to battle and catch Arceus.

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    Default Re: Regarding the Azure Flute

    Quote Originally Posted by $aturn¥oshi View Post
    The Azure Flute was discovered during the first sprite rips of the game.

    Anyone with an AR can hack in the Azure Flute "event" to get the item, then proceed to Mt. Coronet to battle and catch Arceus.
    Anyone with AR can hack a WonderTomb. Does that mean it's canon?

    Even if the item is still in the game files, it was never used which is the entire reason I'm bringing this up. Does it existing in the files but not being used EVER, like the Red Chain item, make it canon? It obviously had a purpose and it activated events on Mt. Coronet but it was never officially released unlike all other event items.

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