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    I have a question about the intellectual capabilities of a pokemon.

    Pikachu is shown to be an equal in intelligence to Ash. A clefairy was shown possessing the knowledge to build a space craft, however in the episode with the two Donphan, the Donphan were portrayed more as animals, trying to attract mates and not seeming to have any intellectual interaction with Ash and friends.

    It was that episode that amde me wonder, what is the intelligence of a pokemon? Are they as smart as humans, as Dragonite's pokedex entry states, or are they smarter than animals, but not as smart as humans?

    Just something I was thinking about that I'd thought would make a good discussion.

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    I think Pokemon have the same intellegence as humans. Those that say they understand human language, I believe have above average intelligence, naturally.

    That's how I see it.


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    I see most Pokemon as very easily on the same level as humans intelligence-wise, perhaps smarter, and certainly some who are much more dim. The show and some pokedex entries seem to have shown this, haven't they?

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    Just as in real life, some creatures are smarter than others. Apparently all Pokemon are at least intelligent enough to be trained and generally understand commands. Many are probably slightly more intelligent than a dog, which can have a limited understanding of human languages. A few, particularly the Humanshape group, are probably at least near human intelligence (possibly closer to a well trained ape in some cases). And some, particularly psychics and/or some legendaries, might well be more intelligent than humans.

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    Well, in one of the series, Magical Pokemon Journey, it was revealed that pokemon have a written language. It's a shame that wasn't explored.

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    Really? I imagine they'd use the same language as us, assuming that written language is based on Unown, a Pokemon. Then again, Unown may have been based on language - the debate can go on and on.

    I would think that there is a difference in the intelligence of a Dragonite and a Slowpoke, that all Pokemon have different levels of intelligence.
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    It all depends on the pokemon. Some pokemon (Mewtwo comes to mind) seem to possess intelligence far beyond the reaches of mankind, whilst others appear to possess the intelligence of an animal, or even less than that in some cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah View Post
    Really? I imagine they'd use the same language as us, assuming that written language is based on Unown, a Pokemon. Then again, Unown may have been based on language - the debate can go on and on.
    Here's what it looks like. I think this is a flipped English scan, but since it's picture-based rather than letter or character based, it's still "readable". Of course, this was also first-gen, so it was before Unown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonah
    Then again, Unown may have been based on language - the debate can go on and on.
    Which came first, the invention or the inventor? Though Unown are obviously based on the english alphabet, if we're still talking about the Pokemon world, then the alphabet was based on the Unown.

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    Yes, it's the chicken (Torchic, in this case?) and the egg debate, with Unown and the alphabet. I believe several people and/or Pokedex entries wonder whether the alphabet or Unown came first, despite it being obvious that Unown must've.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjack Palazzo View Post
    Well, in one of the series, Magical Pokemon Journey, it was revealed that pokemon have a written language. It's a shame that wasn't explored.
    yeah, it is a bit of a shame that Pipipi Adventures tends to be overlooked by the rest of the franchise. Considering it introduced sentient Pokemon to the franchise way back when it was starting out, things like Mystery Dungeon and such really could've built on some of its concepts.

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    In the Giant Pokemon episode (12 or something) Ekans seemed to be intelligent, but spoke in a way that suggested that perhaps they weren't up to par with Pika and his pals. Koffing mainly just agreed with everyone. The Slowpoke comes to mind as it seemed to completely ignore Pikachu and co, then again they arne't the best example out there.

    I suppose it's like telling your dog to sit, however Pokemon must be near human intelligent if they are able to strategize and such. Then again it could be like with animals and how a trained one will grow smarter than one left in the wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonepichu View Post
    Pikachu is shown to be an equal in intelligence to Ash.
    I laughed so hard when I saw that considering that it could also mean that Ash is as dumb as a rat.

    Anyways, the Pokedex have claimed many Pokemon to be atleast as intelligent as a human, such as Dragonite, or even as smart as a Super Computer like Alakazam and Metagross. The intelligence level seems higher on domesticated Pokemon. As for Pokemon as a whole in general, I think that humanoid pokemon have a much higher IQ than those of beast-like creatures. I haven't really thought of where those things inbetween goes like Clefairy who seems like a bit of both, but as for creatures like Magnemite and Voltorb, their intelligence seems limited to what they need to survive.

    Which came first, the invention or the inventor?
    Obviously it's the inventor. Something can not be invented if there was no one to invent it. If it was already there, then finding it would be a discovery, in which case the Discovery most likely came before the discoverer.

    As for the unown, the people would have had to have had some sort of language before they could give each unown it's letter value.

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    I prefer to think pokemon have intelligence similar to our own. Some of them may be more intelligent than others, I agree. I also think that pokemon rely on their instincts more than we do. The pokemon of the MD world are definitely shown as being very much like humans. I am uncertain if the laws of that world can be applied here, but I hold that they must be somewhat similar. This is just how I see it, though.
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    I imagine that most pokemon are relatively intelligent if not better. A prime example of this is Meowth whom taught himself to speak like a human. This is an extreme example but nevertheless proof. Also pokemon have no problem communicating with humans and other pokemon which are in effect using entirely different languages. We have also seen pokemon hatching numerous plans in certain situations. Meowth can again prove pokemon's vast potential for intelligence as he is able to build and operate complicated, heavy machinery.

    As with all creatures some pokemon are more intelligent than others, and as a general rule I would say that trainer "owned" pokemon will normally be more intelligent than wild ones. And some species will be cleverer than others i.e. Dragonite. Some of the less intellectually gifted. i.e. Steelix, Tyranitar, etc... (The hulking beasts) are probably, rather than unintelligent, subject to primal instincts. So if, for example, the pokemon is attacked, where some may try to negotiate, these will fight back.

    There are exceptions to the hulking beasts catergory. Metagross is very large and powerful but extremly intelligent. Also for the majority psychic types are very intelligent. Also some ghost and dark types, along with exceptions from many other types, seem to be very intellectually gifted also.

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