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Let's be honest. The first truly unnecessarily weird character was Crasher Wake.
The first unnecessarily weird pokemon appears to be Exploud.
Black and White have their fair share of good designs (Chandelure as a personal example) but also their fair share of Crasher Wakes (Burgh) and Explouds (Krookodile)
Been here since gen 1 and honestly, each new gen brings a few awesome and novel pokemon and some disappointments. I love the new legendary dragons of gen V but ANYBODY who liked Bidoof and Bibarel from Gen !V has something wrong with them, they were ridiculous, badly designed, ugly pokemon. Zoroark is cool but it seems like they started its design pitch with, "Let's make a better Ditto..." Gurdurr and Conkledurr are just veiny, flabby Machoke and Machamp with clown noses. So many of the designs just seem redundant to me. We already had a Amphibian pokemon, we didn't need Seismitoad. It's not out of nostalgia, it's out of a need for something I HAVEN'T seen before.
Magneton and Dugtrio are weird so yes pokemon was always weird its just getting weirder
not tryin to smart u out or anything, but black and white was a fresh start for pokemon and so they made new versions of pokemon from the past, seriously think of all the pokemon that r simular, alot of the pokemon r simular to black and whiteQuote:
Originally Posted by CJStar22
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But weird is why some of us still play the games, right?
I feel like we have to be careful not to be blinded by nostalgia, but we also can't be too quick to accuse people of being so just because they don't really like the newer generations.
The people who are like: "GEN V SUCKS ALL THE POKEMON ARE UGLY GEN 1 IS THE ONLY GOOD ONE!" are annoying and really just not correct. Most people see that. But then there are also the people on the opposite end of the spectrum, " HOW CAN YOU LIKE GEN 1 THE GAMEPLAY WAS HORRIBLE! YOU ONLY LIKE IT CUZ OF NOSTALGIA!" I don't like that either. Sometimes people just really don't like the new stuff, plain and simple. Its all a matter of opinion and what people like. I personally played from the beginning and my favorite gen was gen 2. But I just love pokemon so I love each new game for what it brings, individually. Do I not like some of the Unova pokemon? Sure! But do I like some of the improvements made to the older games? Yes I do! My favorite game is Heartgold. Anyway, the point of this really long post is that you have to appreciate each new game for what it is, and respect people for what they like and don't like. And hey, its their loss if they don't want to play pokemon anymore!
I agree with this, but the weirdness is starting to get a bit about of hand. after gen IV I took a break and came back to pokemon such as cranks named klink and... candles??Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinySeviper1
Seriously...
We've had Magnets (Magnemite), Sentient Pokeballs (Voltorb), A whack a mole (Diglet) and a living pile of sludge (Grimer) among other ideas righr back in Gen I so yeah your complaint is invalidQuote:
Originally Posted by mwetweI agree with this, but the weirdness is starting to get a bit about of hand. after gen IV I took a break and came back to pokemon such as cranks named klink and... candles??Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinySeviper1
Seriously...
Well with voltorb was created to serve as like a pokeball, which I think is more of a clever idea than a stupid pokemon.
I agree that other generations have had some silly pokemon, but it seems to of gone a bit over the top in this last generation.
No offense taken. That IS part of my point though, they had WAY too many reimaginings of old pokemon and not enough new, interesting, cool pokemon. Props to gamefreak on the legendaries though. They ALWAYS seem to be fresh and cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Link Snivy
Now if they made a full 3d reboot that combines ALL regions and makes ALL pokemon available for catch or trade without transfer, THAT would be Le Epic.
[QUOTE=CJStar22;4212354]The only problem with that is that when they make the next generation, they'll have to make another game such as that =P - Unless, of course, they decide to make it an online PC game that can be updated to include said features.Quote:
Originally Posted by Link Snivy
What I meant by "Without transfer" is, not having to hope your pokemon from old games can transfer over, transferring my HG mons to BW was such a pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Otika
Bringing both topics of nostalgia and weirdness together Pokemon has always had its heavy doses of weird ever since the beginning, but most people were too enthralled with the novelty and newness of the first two generations to see it. Here's something to consider: did anyone in the entire history of existence ever imagine that a mon series would spawn one based on an alphabet? Personally I consider Unown to be the strangest idea for a Pokemon. I can see Pokemon like Magnemite and Vanilluxe created due to the established ideas about youkai and kami, but to me Unown comes right out of nowhere. No one really cared that much about it's origin because Unown was just a small piece of an expansion to the big fad of the time. It is utterly alien to me and I love it for that! Unown, a completely original idea that wasn't persecuted for being a new idea and adored by all fans.
Considering this thread has been flooded by veterans, I think I'll give this a new perspective.
The first game I ever saw was Ruby and the first I ever played was Diamond. Because of this, everything in Gen IV seems completely normal and, because of extension and nostalgia, everything in the generations previous as well. Personally, Gen V posed a problem. I started to see parallels with the other games until I began having doubts as to whether I'd play the new games at all. The thing is, you can't look at it a fresh start to Pokemon, you gotta look at it as if none of the other games existed. Savor it. Because they put a lot of time in the plots and designs and names. You have to view it as a separate game in itself, not a part of the franchise.
Nostalgia is a brilliant thing to have, especially when playing the older games. Treat the new games with what they deserve. Novelty.
...no....i like the new unova pokemon.....in my personal opinion(i've played silver and crystal, red, ruby and white version) white had the best storyline....in terms of Pokemon i like the best.....its really hard because each gen brought its own flavor....i mean hoenn pokemon look different from sinnoh pokemon, and even gliscor and hounchrow don't look like they're in the g/s/c style....