The reason I want(ed) Shanghai instead of NYC is simple:
It fits bitter.
Think about all the things in BW that can be linked to things from China.
(Off the top of my head)
Reshiram and Zekrom (and by extension, Kyurem)
Darmanitan (Legend of the Bodhidharma)
Team Plasma (Plenty of conflict between Europe and China throughout history)
Sports Stadiums (It may fit the US, but there are/were plans for China to build American Football stadiums)
Genesect (Insect Fossils from China)
Other things that aren't coming to mind right now.
EDIT: Seven Sages (of the Bamboo Grove. I was the one to edit that on the Bulbapedia page, a long time ago)
Also think about this: If the Pokemon world was the same as our world, continent-wise, how much of the world would be left undiscovered (by us) if Unova was a part of China, rather than America? Think about how Unova has so many entire routes overrun with older Pokemon. If those Pokemon are so widespread, halfway across the world, then how many Pokemon are actually left to be discovered?
My problem with NYC is that it will cause the series a whole bunch of potential canon problems in the future, provided it has a future (I want it to, don't get me wrong). That's why I view it as a mistake.
Venator, we've been over this before. Just because there are chinese elements (some of the ones you listed barely qualify) doesn't mean it's based on china.
All I have to say regarding this NY/Shanghai issue is that just because the B/W team didn't literally make Unova an over the top caricature of the United States like Eagleland in EarthBound dosen't mean that it's any less conceptually inspired by New York.
Heck, just a few weeks ago I even showed photographs of the cobblestone streets with abandoned train tracks from Nacrene City that actually exist in real world twin neighborhood of Brooklyn Heights. I believe Masuda even specifically pointed out on some blog entry of his that the Skyarrow Bridge mirrored the Brooklyn Bridge.
Even with their unique elements, pretty much any location in the Pokémon World is still going to fall into the same basic generic "pokeworld" template, which is still informed by it conceived by an Asian team.
Even when the evidence was OVERWHELMINGLY leaning in favor of Unova being based on New York, I couldn't fault the notion some clung to of it being based on Shanghai until we got the specific confirmation stating otherwise.
I just hope this doesn't become the split timeline/singular timeline thing in Zelda, though I would say this issue is MUCH more clear cut than that mess
Also, I would like to point out that this map makes sense when you take into consideration that "Old World" Pokemon are only found on the eastern side of Unova. Just saying.
It is known that Zelda timeline is split in two. So, it can't get clearer than that. :DI just hope this doesn't become the split timeline/singular timeline thing in Zelda, though I would say this issue is MUCH more clear cut than that mess
I FOUND IT. THE WORLD MAP OF POKEMON WITH ALL REGIONS
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Likewise in Black/White, we actually have cases of multiple neighborhoods we can can visit in the game and see actual real life equivalents and KNOW objectively that its based on New York.
Well, to be fair it was pretty obvious what Link planned to do when he went back to Zelda at the end, and Majora's Mask confirmed that something different occured with Child Link by way of the place wasn't being devistated and Zelda wasn't being rushed away in the flashback.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure it was said Real World New York = Pokéworld Unova by the designers. It can't be more confirmed then if there was a Pokébible with every region's design in and the Base City listed.