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    I consider Phione to be like Rotom, you can breed and get endless Phiones, Like Rotom of whom I don't consider a legendary.

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    Phione is confirmed to not be a legendary. Check the talk page for the Celebi article if you don't believe me.

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    Well, that sounds good enough for me then. Though that still begs the question of Manaphy.

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    This begs the question of "why are we trusting a side game?" to mind. If we are counting sidegames, then a lot of things fans assume about legendaries would be untrue.

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    I consider Phione a legendary, just the worst one there is. Does anyone consider Rotom a legendary?
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    We can't really discount anything if we're willing to believe both the anime AND games in this section. The contradictions there are astounding.

    Though even in the anime phione was never a legendary.

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    Truthfully, the anime doesn't decide whether Phione is a legendary. Neither do side games. They may be overseen by the Pokemon company but even true official sources have been confused on Phione's status, calling it both a legendary and a non-legendary at varying times. I guess the only ones who will ever truly know what Phione is is the designers themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    This begs the question of "why are we trusting a side game?" to mind. If we are counting sidegames, then a lot of things fans assume about legendaries would be untrue.
    Such as...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missingno. Master View Post
    Such as...?

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    For a few, the "One of each" rule of Legendaries that fans assume to be true would be broken on several occasions, Legendaries would hatch froms eggs on a few occasions and etc. Also, Dialga has been shown to actually be controlled by time more than it controls it in PMD2 and 3 (Why else would Primal Dialga exist?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkfire View Post
    We can't really discount anything if we're willing to believe both the anime AND games in this section. The contradictions there are astounding.

    Though even in the anime phione was never a legendary.
    They had a Heatran just chilling with a trainer during the league.
    Quote Originally Posted by Missingno. Master View Post
    Phione is confirmed to not be a legendary. Check the talk page for the Celebi article if you don't believe me.

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    Can we be more specific? Pretty long talk page, and honestly, the logic that goes into arguments on those talk pages frustrate me.

    EDIT: Nvm found it, GS seems to be consistent with their categorization, though what do they call Mewtwo when you fight it?

    Found the clip here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f313/manaphy-phione-85627-post2455512/#post2455512

    I can't find anything similar with the writing.

    EDIT: Okay, so it just says Edward's Mewtwo, so no help there since its counting it as a trainer's Pokemon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Venator View Post
    For a few, the "One of each" rule of Legendaries that fans assume to be true would be broken on several occasions, Legendaries would hatch froms eggs on a few occasions and etc. Also, Dialga has been shown to actually be controlled by time more than it controls it in PMD2 and 3 (Why else would Primal Dialga exist?).
    Well, PMD is alternate universe, while Manaphy's entire existence in the main series is due to the Ranger games, so I wouldn't discount them. Sure, Game Freak may have made Manaphy, but it still holds that its origin of capture is in Ranger.
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