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    That reminds me... some hummingbird feathers look different colours depending on how the light strikes them, so it can be possible that Ho-oh's feathers work just the same.

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    That'S another possibility. Would be neat if you could track down some pictures of those hummingbirds, though.

    I don't think we should take the "seven colors of teh rainbow" stuff ENTIRELY literally if we don't go with the prismatic notion, though.
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    We should also keep in mind that its anime appearance after the first season was more in line with the game appearance.

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    HOWEVER, it's anime appearance in the first season is more in line with the description given in the pokédexes.

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    (BTW - check out the pokéballs thread again. I'd like to have your take on a question I asked there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damian Silverblade
    That'S another possibility. Would be neat if you could track down some pictures of those hummingbirds, though.
    I will when I come back. *nods*

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    I think we're overdue for a Ho-Oh movie. :(

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    Good point - what is the ultimate point of Ho-Oh in the anime? Most of the other big names legendaries (excluding Raikou) have featured in movies to date...

    Though that's probably better suited to a new thread in the anime forum.
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    Raikou had a special, so he counts.

    Ho-oh is probably exempt because it's the only legendary to be prominently featured in the actual anime.

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    As I said, this is probably best kept for an anime forum thread, since it's a discussion of the actual anime
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    I've seen a pidgeon's feathers change color according to the angle at which you look at it.

    Anyway, I think the Ho-oh in the first ep was gold to reiterate the fact that then, it was an "unknown" pokemon. I'm not entirely sure if they even had a real color scheme for it back then, as Ho-oh was taken out of the first gen and recycled for the second gen. Yeah, I'm probably wrong, because if I remember, it was making a rainbow then, too.
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    And now comes a reason to kick myself over leaving my mythical beasts books down south.

    Ho-oh, not so much based on the houou than it is on the asian Feng Huang. ...Though its lacking a counterpart, we can stretch it like Mr. Fantastic and say Lugia's its yin/yang.

    http://www.avians.net/paragon/fenghuang.htm

    This pretty much explains everything my own book says. In fact, the images are borrowed directly from the two books I own. Dunno whether to be irked that two of them aren't credited to be from one of the books.

    ....And you cannot tell me (or convince me) Ho-oh wouldn't look tacky with all seven colors on its body, considering who we're talking about here. Leaving a rainbow in its wake can poetically (and in a way, literally) cover the seven-color dilemma if its feathers/wings/pinions/whatever.
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    As promised, some reference on the hummingbird feathers:

    http://portalproductions.com/h/iridescent.htm

    http://www.tamarindo.net/animals/hummingbird.jpg

    I think Ho-oh's feathers would be iridiscent like the hummingbird's if it was real.

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    Toraph - excellent post on the Feng Huang, on which Ho-Oh is indeed based. Little detail though : Ho-Oh (the japanese legend, not the pokémon) and Feng-Huang are not different creatures. In fact, Ho-Oh is the japanese word for the bird the chinese call "Feng-Huang".

    Alex - well, I, for one, am now convinced. Ho-Oh DEFINITELY would have hummingbird-esque feathers in a "real" manifestation.
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    Thought on the seven colors: the phoenix is a bird that symbolizes rebirth and abundance; seven is a number that symbolizes spiritual perfection or completeness.

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    Connecting what Barb said and what we know about Ho-oh in both the anime and games, I believe the rainbow thing related to Ho-Oh also has to do with the fact that not only is a Phoenix, but also resurrected the Pokémon (Suicune, Raikou and Entei) who died in the Tin Tower fire, according to the legend.

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