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    Welcome to all those who are new! Always a pleasure to welcome new people.

    I too agree on "Forrest Grumps." It's a decent hint, not too ground-breaking, and it's cute to watch. A nice "D'AWWW! They miss each other! How cuuuute!" sort of thing (not that I ever do anything like that...).

    How does Ash and Misty's teasing seem like 10 year old crushes kind of teasing instead of brother/sister kind of teasing?

    Well, from my own experience, it's nothing like a brother/sister kind of thing. My sister and I hardly ever teased each other. We get along really well, actually. I think Ash and May exhibit a relationship much more similar to that of a brother and a sister, but that's a different conversation. I may be an atypical case, though. But from what I know, it seems like the brother/sister teasing stems more from a perception of the parent(s) favoring the other child and has more of an air of complaint to it. Misty doesn't seem to be complaining about Ash or vice versa, they seem to be accusing each other of being (insert insult here) simply for the sake of accusing. It seems more like an attempt to deflect their own inner feelings from coming to the surface than actually complaining about the behavior of the other.

    I could be totally wrong, but them's my two cents on the matter.
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    Well, from my own experience, it's nothing like a brother/sister kind of thing. My sister and I hardly ever teased each other. We get along really well, actually. I think Ash and May exhibit a relationship much more similar to that of a brother and a sister, but that's a different conversation. I may be an atypical case, though. But from what I know, it seems like the brother/sister teasing stems more from a perception of the parent(s) favoring the other child and has more of an air of complaint to it. Misty doesn't seem to be complaining about Ash or vice versa, they seem to be accusing each other of being (insert insult here) simply for the sake of accusing. It seems more like an attempt to deflect their own inner feelings from coming to the surface than actually complaining about the behavior of the other.
    I agree, a brother and sister relationship is usually a calm loving relationship with occasional fighting.
    But Ash and Misty's relationship consists of constant arguments and when someone interrupts with a suggestive comment
    on their fighting, they get angry as a cover up for their embarassment over the comment.
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    I have a question: Have any of you here ever convinced someone else of Pokéshipping? I know I have, although it was to someone who had never seen the Original Series until I recommended it to them. Despite that, though, they're now an avid Pokeshipper like us. So, has anyone done anything similar to that? If so, how did you manage it? (eg. pointing out hints, comparing it to other shippings etc.)
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    Goodness I haven't been here in a while. Don't worry this is still ny ship! See:

    maemukirokettodan97.deviantart.com/art/PKMN25YL-Parent-Group-Pic-314166993?
    I love this one cause its all my ships from this show! ( well I dont actually know much about the newer characters...)

    anniemay777.deviantart.com/art/Bonds-never-break-315891539?

    bruedance.deviantart.com/art/Summer-Festival-315057316?

    laura-satoko.deviantart.com/art/Finally-Human-Prize-for-DekaFoxMcCloude-315295018?
    wow for the last one!

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    Have any of you here ever convinced someone else of Pokéshipping?

    no :/
    In fact, my friends told me that they have watched Pokémon ... They prefer Kasumi and think that there is something between Kasu & Satoshi... =]
    So, no need to convince them >.>

    Question : Do you think that Pokéshipping will continue in the future ?
    => I mean if Pokémon were to continue for some time, there'll be less people who'll knew the original serie ( Kanto-Johto (1997-2002) => Kasumi therefore, Pokéshipping)...
    Plus, some people will grow older and maybe forget the Pokéshipping, the youngsters will not know Pokémon from before, the Pokéshipping fans will die , there'll be a lot more Neggai/Advanced/Pearl/ (new-main-girl or other) shipping fanfics....

    Pokéshipping is still continuing but It'll decrease and die :'(

    THE END OF THE WORLD

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    Quote Originally Posted by R&T View Post
    Question : Do you think that Pokéshipping will continue in the future ?
    => I mean if Pokémon were to continue for some time, there'll be less people who'll knew the original serie ( Kanto-Johto (1997-2002) => Kasumi therefore, Pokéshipping)...
    Plus, some people will grow older and maybe forget the Pokéshipping, the youngsters will not know Pokémon from before, the Pokéshipping fans will die , there'll be a lot more Neggai/Advanced/Pearl/ (new-main-girl or other) shipping fanfics....

    Pokéshipping is still continuing but It'll decrease and die :'(

    THE END OF THE WORLD

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    I guess that's why we're all hoping that Misty's coming back if there's an anime version of the World Tournament. Apart from satisfying us, the older fans (or the majority of us anyway), it'll also introduce her to newer Pokemon fans, and if there's any Pokeshipping significance in these episodes, there could be born a whole new generation of Pokeshippers.

    And then, obviously, some of these new Pokeshippers would start watching the Original series and see all the amazing hints that we've seen.
    A bit farfetched maybe, but there's always hope.
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    Have any of you here ever convinced someone else of Pokeshipping?

    Sadly no. Pokemon is losing its fans where I lived and only like 5 people even talk about it nowadays. There's a few that watched the old series, but they grew up with AG and D/P, so they preferred Pearlshipping actually. I think one person hates May and Misty so I can't convince them of Pokeshipping (or Contestshipping for that matter).

    Do you think that Pokeshipping will continue in the future?

    I do hope so! But we already saw how some fans lost interest in the shipping after even AG came out, tons of Contestshipping and Advanceshipping fans. So, unless Pokemon does a huge hint if Misty ever comes back, us Pokeshippers will basically just lose interest. ):


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    Quote Originally Posted by RadioactivCharmander
    I guess that's why we're all hoping that Misty's coming back if there's an anime version of the World Tournament. Apart from satisfying us, the older fans (or the majority of us anyway), it'll also introduce her to newer Pokemon fans, and if there's any Pokeshipping significance in these episodes, there could be born a whole new generation of Pokeshippers.

    And then, obviously, some of these new Pokeshippers would start watching the Original series and see all the amazing hints that we've seen.
    A bit farfetched maybe, but there's always hope.
    => I'm pretty sure if I had watched DP or AG before Kanto-Johto, I would still prefer Pokéshipping ('cause I like ContestShipping [Haruka/Shu] <3, Hikari with Shinji ) >.>... In fact, I base my choice on the fact that it can happen or not .... Seriously, I can't see [Haruka/Satoshi] or [Hikari/Satoshi] or [Shinji/Satoshi]....It's the same for other animes =]
    And I think nowadays kids don't have a lot of interest in watching older series >.>.....So they don't watch Kanto (at least) and don't see what was Pokémon back then :/
    Myself, I watch 1970,80,90 animes... It's just curiosity

    => And I think It's amazing to support a shipping more than 10 years [ or less for others ]...When I've watched Pokémon (Kanto), I immediately supported the Pokéshipping....even after AG...
    So I think it's normal that after one decade, PokéShipping fans lost their interest. It's kinda the same with me about other long-running animes :/


    => Just for my knowledge (^^), Do you know how big is the Pokéshipping fanbase ? I can't imagine it :/


    BTW, If Kasumi were to return in BW, How strong would she be ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R&T View Post
    => Just for my knowledge (^^), Do you know how big is the Pokéshipping fanbase ? I can't imagine it :/


    BTW, If Kasumi were to return in BW, How strong would she be ?
    I know that at the beginning, Pokeshipping was the most popular shipping in the fandom despite Rocketshipping having been created before it. It was only when its detractors started to come up with ones like Egoshipping and Gymshipping that it started to diminish a bit. And then obviously a huge percentage of viewers, most likely Pokeshippers, stopped watching at the end of the OS.
    I can say that the PS fanbase now is probably very small, but still exists nonetheless.

    And to answer your second question, I'm sure she'd be pretty damn strong if she returns - especially if she's in the World Tournament!
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    Haven't been around in a while. Well, hello again.

    Have you ever convinced someone else of Pokeshipping?

    Online or IRL, nope. My local friends don't actively watch Pokemon; in fact, none of them play either. So, it would be difficult to even discuss the Anime, let alone shippings in the Anime at all. My siblings also are apathetic in general to the Pokemon Anime, and probably remember very little of it to even genuinely ship anything, so attempting to convince them won't occur. I've never tried to convert anyone into Pokeshipping, either, or really any shipping fully. Possibly unintentionally, though...

    Do you think that Pokeshipping will continue in the future?

    As in, the support for it? Yes, even in a decadent fashion. I mean, there's always going to be someone who will rewatch the OS, or begin to watch Pokemon from the beginning, and perhaps every so often, they'll decide to support Pokeshipping and inspire dormant Pokeshippers to show their love, even for a brief moment. Now, it's naturally going to decrease, as time goes on without progression (well, so far at least).

    In regards to that Forest Grumps episode, I'd assess the hint as not being most blatant and strong. As in, it is a hint by the fact that they're the only two out of the two groups to call to one another, and they do so with cordiality, but other than that, it's not very phenomenal, even with the joy in their voices.

    Also, with the Fanbase, we'd have to take into account the shippers who aren't on any sites to be represented by, and what I like to call, subconscious shippers. Unless you just wish to find out the size for the known internet Fanbase, then, eh I have no clue...
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    Have you ever convinced someone else of Pokeshipping?

    I think I have, though they may already have thought so, and I did it the same way each time, by watching Pokemon 2000 with them. One was my sister and the other was my now ex-girlfriend. My sister and I like to watch old tv shows and movies that we used to watch, Pokemon included. So as soon as the Melody kiss scene came, I pointed out Misty's face after the kiss and she was all like "she so jelly right now." (for the uninitiated, jelly=jealous) I kept pointing things out and by the time Ash was unconscious from nearly drowning, my sister was saying things like "Misty sounds relieved, but she's actually disappointed because she didn't get to give him mouth to mouth." I was a proud brother that day.

    And my ex loves watching Pokemon movies. We actually just hung out and watched one of them recently (we remain friends). When we watched it together I pointed out the first thing (the Melody kiss) and after that, she started pointing things out to me before I could say anything. So she may not have needed convincing in the first place. For all I know SHE MAY BE READING THIS VERY THREAD. That'd be weird. I wouldn't bet on it though.

    Do you think that Pokeshipping will continue in the future?

    Ideas never die. It'll always live on as long as the original episodes are available to be watched, and maybe even without them. As Likeitornot said, there'll always be someone.

    As for the size of the fanbase, I'd say it's larger than it appears. There are only so many people who post on forums, write fics, make fanart, etc. There are probably a lot of people who just consume the art, the writing and follow the posts on forums. I know I did, for a long time. I didn't post anything on a forum until probably '07 or '08, and I've been following pokeshipping online since about 2000. If I had to guess, based on the number of views my fics have got, the number of people who seem to follow various artists on deviantart, I'd say the number of active pokeshippers is on the order of a thousand or so. Something with four digits.
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    A question I had in mind, that may be good for a topic.

    What kind of PokéShipping hints do you like? Leave examples, if possible.

    What I mean by that is do you like the cute moments (like in the episode where JigglyPuff sings and Ash and Misty are leaning on each other, sleeping) or do you like their bickering moments (like in a Shadow of a Drought).

    To answer my own question, I personally like things that the creators clearly put in there. For example, the JigglyPuff episode. The creators focused on Ash and Misty leaning on each other, so there must be a reason why they wanted to focus on them only. And also "Forest Grumps", where they only focused on Ash and Misty when the whole group came back together. I always thought those were big hints, because the creators deliberately focused on them and only them. I said the word "focused" 50 times in the past three sentences. Anyway, what do you guys think?
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    Oh, so many questions. Let's see...

    Have you ever convinced someone else of Pokeshipping?

    Well, I haven't convinced anyone in the strictest sense of the word. I have very few friends that will admit to being pokemon fans, and those that do are already pokeshippers :) I did, however revive my little sister's interest in pokemon and pokeshipping when I revived my own interest. I couldn't stop sharing with her, and she never considered anyone else for Ash.

    Do you think that Pokeshipping will continue in the future?

    I don't know why we are all being so negative in response to this question. I personally believe that if it has lasted this long, why not? You get the old viewers, the old viewers like me who stopped watching for a while then got back into pokemon, you have the older new viewers who go back and watch the original series (which makes sense, I would want to know how the series I love had its beginning. The really little kids wouldn't try to find old episodes, but some older kids might be interested), and if Misty (hopefully!) appears, then you have a new generation of fans. Call me naive if you wish, but I think we have a very strong chance to continue.

    What kind of PokéShipping hints do you like? Leave examples, if possible.

    Oooo, this is a fun question :) My absolute favorite hints are hints from Ash's side. Of these I absolutely love when they are accused of liking each other and deny it, especially when they blush (Pokeball Peril comes to mind, and the original version of a Date with Delcatty, as well as Wherefore Art Thou Pokemon). A Date with Delcatty is definitely up there as well because of the way Psyduck had to tease her. And Psyduck can be compared to Ash in many ways, and the relationship between Misty and Psyduck can be compared to the relationship between Misty and Ash. Another kind of hint that I like is when Ash finds Misty attractive, such as in The Ghost of Maiden's Peak (who doesn't love that?). And I also like hints that are not as obvious, such as how when they fight they end up super close to each other (A Shadow of a Drought, super cute!) Oh I love pokeshipping :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metallicax3 View Post
    Okay, I have a topic, but I'm going to say something before it to sort of let you guys understand the topic better.

    So, most non-PokéShippers will say that Ash/Misty seem to be more like brother and sister. They would say that they tease each other like a brother and sister would. Now, the topic is-

    How does Ash and Misty's teasing seem like 10-year-old-crushes kind of teasing instead of brother/sister kind of teasing?
    for me the teasing between ash/misty seems far too nice for brother and sister kind of teasing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metallicax3 View Post
    A question I had in mind, that may be good for a topic.

    What kind of PokéShipping hints do you like? Leave examples, if possible.

    What I mean by that is do you like the cute moments (like in the episode where JigglyPuff sings and Ash and Misty are leaning on each other, sleeping) or do you like their bickering moments (like in a Shadow of a Drought).
    I like all Kind of Pokéshipping.... =]
    -Their bickering moments, when Kasumi begin to fight with Satoshi because they are lost. Or even, I really like when it's Satoshi who annoy Kasu ^^. It shows that he have some personnality. I can add ep 9 when Kasumi is jealous of Seiyo <3 ...

    -Cute hints ...like in episode 11, 20, 23 when Kasumi is afraid and clings onto Satoshi....Or as said previously, when they're sleeping side by side ( a lot of episodes)


    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of the Moon
    What kind of PokéShipping hints do you like? Leave examples, if possible.

    Oooo, this is a fun question :) My absolute favorite hints are hints from Ash's side. Of these I absolutely love when they are accused of liking each other and deny it, especially when they blush (Pokeball Peril comes to mind, and the original version of a Date with Delcatty, as well as Wherefore Art Thou Pokemon). A Date with Delcatty is definitely up there as well because of the way Psyduck had to tease her. And Psyduck can be compared to Ash in many ways, and the relationship between Misty and Psyduck can be compared to the relationship between Misty and Ash. Another kind of hint that I like is when Ash finds Misty attractive, such as in The Ghost of Maiden's Peak (who doesn't love that?). And I also like hints that are not as obvious, such as how when they fight they end up super close to each other (A Shadow of a Drought, super cute!) Oh I love pokeshipping :)
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    Seriously, with these hints the Pokéshipping is most likely to happen =D
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