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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    Diamond and Pearl Tag Tournament ROCKED, but it wasn't all tournament battling, we also had meaningful character interaction and the Chimchar subplot being wrapped up.

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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    If we're to go by merchandise for the next few months, then Virgil should have a fair likelihood of returning--something I think we can all agree is necessitated either way by the fact that not once did he and Satoshi battle, nor did his Eievui evolve. I wouldn't necessarily rule out a PWT scenario in Hodomoe, but he could just as easily simply appear and help fight off the Plasma-dan.

    Gaburias is one of the Pokemon featured on various pieces of merchandise--Shouwa Note for example--alongside Episode N Pokemon such as Lizardon and Rayquaza, so that could point to Shirona returning for PWT; however, Flygon, Bohmander, and Archeos are also featured and they don't belong notably to any PWT character, so it's possible that all four could simply come under the ownership of Iris. (Lucario and Sazandora are featured too, but that may simply be because of Kotetsu)
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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu View Post
    Am I the only person who hates tournament arcs, not just in this series but in general?

    They're freaking plotless wastes of time that are a chore to get through. Seeing characters fight each other in the same stadium for an entire month (assuming the show isn't pre-empted any during that time) because the writers are too lazy to figure out a better way to get these characters to interact with each other isn't even the least bit fun. I would much rather see Satoshi battle Kenyan because he wants to test his rival's strength than see him forced to go up against him because they were chosen to battle each other in a random drawing.

    And that's not even taking into account how terrible the BW tournaments have all been.
    I'm not sure if the other tournament arcs in previous series have been too bad. The Tag Battle tournament in DP was awesome and while the Whirl Cup was pretty lackluster for the most part, it didn't feel like a waste of time, at least compared to the BW tournaments. Though, with the BW tournament arcs, it really does come off more like the writers can't figure out how to have the characters interact more without a tournament to bring them together. Having Ash battle the rival characters just because they run into each other would be better than simply going through a couple of rounds in a tournament to get to that match.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu
    I'll take four unpredictable "filler" episodes in which the pokemon learn new attacks or evolve over having to sit through twenty minutes of Don George talking about how exciting everything is any day.
    Considering how many of the Pokemon in BW need more training to learn more attacks or evolve, that would have been a much better use of time than spending a handful of episodes on these tournaments, even with how the second one was relatively decent for the most part.

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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro ~ Bajeena
    Diamond and Pearl Tag Tournament ROCKED, but it wasn't all tournament battling, we also had meaningful character interaction and the Chimchar subplot being wrapped up.
    ...which they could have achieved without locking everyone in a stadium for the better part of a month.
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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    I thought the Tournament Arc was a great place to work the Chimchar plot in though, and all the battles rocked.

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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    I'd like to see a Tournament, but given that most of the rival plots of Best Wishes have been concluded (Trip, Bianca, not sure about Stephan) or have stagnated (Burgundy and Georgia) it leaves scope for only about six characters in each tournament, which, for Best Wishes, is pretty small. I would like to see Ash beating Cameron and Virgil, and definitely challenging N.

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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    As long as it isn't as shockingly bad as the Junior Cup and Unova League were, then I'm for it. It would be even better if Ash uses Charizard there and getting a win over Cameron would be a real treat to watch after that BS ridden battle.
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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quattro ~ Bajeena
    Diamond and Pearl Tag Tournament ROCKED, but it wasn't all tournament battling, we also had meaningful character interaction and the Chimchar subplot being wrapped up.
    ...which they could have achieved without locking everyone in a stadium for the better part of a month.
    I don't really see any other situation where Ash and Paul would willingly work together. And I think it was the perfect way to spearhead the whole chimchar trade plot.

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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    As shitty as BW tournaments have been, I only want a fourth one to see if the writers could somehow right their wrongs. I love Georgia and Burgundy as well as Bianca so it'd be really nice for them to get some proper closure. It would also be nice if this final tournament Ash would use reserves from other regions and just keep the starters and Scraggy in this one.

    Bottom line, I only want a fourth tournament so the writers could potentially do it right and give fans something to look forward to by Generation 6. Have Team Rocket participate, bring back an old face(without screwing them over like you did Dawn), give Ash's pokemon some more development.

    To tell the truth, I'm not digging this N' arc too much. Yes the trio is nice and Charizard's return should be interesting but in terms of quality it's wishy-washy.

    I'd welcome one last BW tournament, but one done right. Maybe tag or double battle? 3v3? One on ones got tired, so no more of that please.

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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    As far as possibility of another tournament popping up goes, i have to agree with everyone who hope how in case of happening we wont be dealing again with one on one battles. While it seemed nice and refreshing at start after awhile it became just plain formulaic and repetitive not delivering much excitement or diversity in pokemon battles. Two on two per say would be much more appreciated to see opening door for more complex, strategic matches with competitors having to evaluate what pokemon to send and at what time.

    That said while chances are small, i still hope we rather get expansion from World Cup concept in that case rather than another Don George competition. Since it would allow for more diverse competition, if were lucky return of some previous characters or gym leaders and be opportunity to have reformatory test from disappointment Junior Cup was promoting idea of evetn on global basis in better, filled with dignity light.

    Although if we receive tag competition like we had in DP being one of new features in Don George competitions for change i wouldn't complain. Pairing between main characters and rivals working together as team and overcoming differences would be interesting to try out imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hidden Mew View Post
    I'm not sure if the other tournament arcs in previous series have been too bad. The Tag Battle tournament in DP was awesome and while the Whirl Cup was pretty lackluster for the most part, it didn't feel like a waste of time, at least compared to the BW tournaments. Though, with the BW tournament arcs, it really does come off more like the writers can't figure out how to have the characters interact more without a tournament to bring them together. Having Ash battle the rival characters just because they run into each other would be better than simply going through a couple of rounds in a tournament to get to that match.
    Agreed about Hearthome tag tournament, being easily among my favorites. I liked team pairing being enjoyable to see two rivals like Ash and Paul team up and work together for change, and it also fit nicely with story of abandoned Chimchar which later come over under Ash wing. Or Brock and Holly who worked great together as team having enjoyable interactions. And there's of course group of Dawn and rather creepy Conway which certainly gave run for its money to Ash and Paul.

    Battles were very good for most part and sometime if done right tournaments can be of great benefit for story, have companions interact and bond more together etc promoting that healthy spirit of sport/competition between them. Which DP tag battle executed very nicely.

    Although i liked a lot Whirl Cup too being one of my favorite tourney arcs. Granted it did seemed a bit rushed cramming too many things in only few episodes and i expected more from it. However whole backstory and concept being portrayed as some sort of league for water pokemon was creative and unique in itself. Most battles were enjoyable for most part, set up was nice and interactions between characters like Ash and Misty filled with belaud and competitive fire facing eventually each other being interesting imo.
    Most importantly it had purpose behind it being linked with her water master career.

    More than i can say for most tournaments in BW unfortunately.
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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    I was excited for a second when I read the title. There are a lot of ideas that can be used for a new tournament, especially with the involvement of Team Plasma and N. Colress could be gathering information like he did in the games in the tournament, and having N there as well would help challenge his views on Pokemon battling, where Ash could show him how it's all in good fun, and thus develop N's character.

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    Default re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    I like that IDEA that looks good if the Writers decide to do that, and if they, Consider me interested in that.

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    Default Re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    Just to make the topic clearer, I changed the title of the thread to match the question for the poll.

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    Default Re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    Ok that makes things more Clear I think.

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    Default Re: Would you like to see another Pokemon Tournament within Episode N?

    I love the whole "the D/P tournament rocked but the BW ones sucked and I'm not going to give any real reasoning behind this other than I'm biased toward D/P and against BW" thing going on in this thread. Personally, I found both Don George tournaments to be great.

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