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    That's true but the writers have made up for some of it with cyndaquil and phanphy evolvinq, noctowl and her across learning new moves etc. only tododile from his johto team is seriously lacking in terms of training

    Corpish had good development in ag, kingler should have been the one who got to travel with ash during the battle frontier saga, great opportunity wasted

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    I have to agree with past comments, Muk and Kingler have had hardly any development. Yes Kingler (and I think Muk) were both used in the indigo plateu but apart from the odd appearance, they havent properly been trained.

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    In terms of underdeveloped - I think Snorlax. It's always been fairly powerful, so never got 'development' as such, it's moves seem to change each time it appears but I can't remember Ash actually training it and certainly not very often if he has.

    Muk is developed quite well personality wise, there's a lot of his Pokemon (especially BW ones) that are far less unique. Sure it never actually gets used, so certainly one of the most neglected, and Ash also never trains it - but at least it's memorable unlike some of his other Pokemon.

    Kingler probably takes it overall though, combines almost never being used with never being trained and no uniqueness. Plus, Corphish exists - which takes away any uniqueness it might have had.

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    If kingler can learn attacks such as x scissor and mud shot, it can certainly be unique. Plus it is an evolved Pokemon with hyper beam, something that corpish does not have

    I have always thought of corpish as a kingler knock off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhhhdmt View Post
    I have always thought of corpish as a kingler knock off.
    Corphish was intended to be Totodile done right. The "comic relief" water pokemon with being hyperactive but still strong.

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    I Agree but I was talking in terms if design, ash did not need a second crab like Pokemon. Kingler should have travelled with him for one series at least.

    To me, Kingler has greater potential than corpish, unless corpish evolves, and even then, I would still prefer kingler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhhhdmt View Post
    I Agree but I was talking in terms if design, ash did not need a second crab like Pokemon. Kingler should have travelled with him for one series at least.

    To me, Kingler has greater potential than corpish, unless corpish evolves, and even then, I would still prefer kingler.
    The difference is Kingler was never intended to be the main water type of that gen as we had Squirtle. With Corphish, it was Ash's ONLY water pokemon for all of AG, which is why it got so much better treatment.

    It's like in BW, we hardly see Palpitoad at all because of Oshawott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhhhdmt View Post
    Primeape is no longer ash's though, it has never returned to him, not even once, whereas char and squirtie have come back consistently

    Kingler needs to go with ash on a journey and get some proper training, battle frontier was a great opportunity but say the writers had to use corpish instead
    Actually Primeape still belongs to Ash, even the creators note this by continually showing him with Ash's Pokemon in beginning credits such as Be An Arrow! which does not feature Ash's Released, Traded, Temporary or Unofficial.

    Also the top of this thread says "party, Oak's lab, and in training" and the official statement on Primeape is "In Training" so he would fit this category. So I would have to say Primeape
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    Unfezant. Only joking, I'll stop my birdwhoring a bit now that she's been getting some well-deserved action these last weeks. But yes, Gantoru hasn't been seen in months and Gamagaru hasn't gotten much of a spotlight since that Don tournament which name I forgot, or even the Driftveil Gym battle! However...I don't even know what the hell Muk has done, or 27 of his Kentauros for that matter.

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    Where would you even start?

    Kingler
    Muk
    Tauros
    Donphan
    Unfezant
    Snorlax
    Heracross
    Noctowl

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