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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    Regarding Iris and Cilan, i have to admit they have lot of life and energy in their interactions with Ash and between themselves.As i already mentioned before after original trio i find BW cast have most engaging and enjoyable friendship established between themselves. From Iris snark and wildness being oriented toward nature relying on instincts, Cilan flamboyance trying to always look at things from scientific point of view and how for everything there exist logical explanation or Ash childish charm putting pokemon often on first place before anything else, clueless and brazen attitude they are delivering enthusiasm and lot of energy in their interactions fulfilling each other well.

    As far as departure goes i imagine Iris will most likely be most emotional about it feeling down of having to abandon her friends. Especially since she didn't discovered true value of friendship until she met this guys being rather anti social and uncomfortable in bonding with humans due to negative experiences following her from childhood being treated as outcast.
    And when she finally developed thrust toward others building solid friendship with Ash and Cilan i imagine it wouldn't be easy for her to just walk away.

    While Cilan will probably try to keep cold head and remain stoic, suppressing his feelings while saying goodbye to Ash which was main reason he left gym in first place and learn about new ways of battling he wasn't aware of until he met him.
    Or he could for all we know decide to stay with Ash and follow him to new region based on France dying to learn about their culture and learn more(eh if only we were that lucky).

    Ash will be kinda sad and queer but overall i doubt their departure will hold same amount of tension and sadness like it happened with original trio split up for understandable reasons ill cover right away in response below.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    I thought the level of emotion done when the original trio split up was exaggerated and overdone. When Brock left for Orange Islands Ash actually seemed happy about it for him, (and back then Ash didn't think he was coming back), yet when Brock leaves for Johto he acts like he can't go on without him? Despite Brock coming back 4 episodes later and then not showing much emotion when he leaves again at the end of DP? It was overdone for Misty as well, it made it seem like Misty was being locked away in a vault somewhere when in reality Misty visits again only 44 episodes later. And then when Ash does see Misty again in AG and she leaves again, both times he doesn't seem to care. I still remember the ending of AG134 when the entire group and Misty just go in opposite directions with no fond farewell at all.
    It wasn't exaggerated when taken in account how Misty and Brock were Ash first friends he met on journey and companions with who he spend most time out of all other friends he traveled with.

    Ash bursting into tears, Misty being on verge of crying being upset and disappointed over Ash initial carefree and Brock barely suppressing himself feeling melancholic was only sign of strong friendship, mutual understanding and admiration they build for each other and appreciation for everything his friends done for him helping him to stand on two feet, pass all struggles and emerge as stronger trainer. All three passed through many things together considering themselves like "second family "being only appropriate and within characterization to feel deplorable emphasizing on close bond they shared becoming much more attached and familiar within themselves than they were in Kanto..

    Nonetheless your point about Misty leaving Ash again Hoenn doesn't help argument either because first departure from friends with who you slept, eat and did everything for long period of time(judging by 3rd movie reference, years)is always the hardest not being prepared for it. By than Ash got used to departures and his friends departing, and if i recall right Misty was still frustrated for having to leave Ash and others soon enough wishing to stick for longer.

    So yes they cared, but leaned how to cope with leaving their friends and moving on.
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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    We'll probably have some emotional level when they leave, but I doubt there will be anything really depressing

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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    When they show iris walking off into the sunset there should be emotional music completed by Ash muttering to himself What a kid.
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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    Not as emotional compared to that of DP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinneth View Post
    there will probably be tears I won't care about, because I'll be too busy being happy about this group splitting up for good.
    Quoted for realness

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    Cilan should not leave at all.
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    I think it will be the same as with the others, no major differences. The ones who will start to cry would be Scraggy and Axew. Iris would probably accept the Opelucid gym offer and Cilan will return as the gym leader of Straiton gym with his brothers. Ash and Iris may fell a tear, but for some reason I cant imagine Cilan cry.

    I want Ash to return with one of the previous characters (brock, misty, dawn, may) and continue his journey with both his old pokemon and the new ones. I really miss the ones back at Oak's lab, like bulbasaur and Bayleef.

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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    I'm hoping for a nice ending, I don't expect Ash to be distraught given he was okay with going back to Kanto so easily and Iris threw together a convenient excuse(Um....Kanto Dragon-types!(She owns a Dragonite already...Horsea's a Dragon though)) and Cilan just decided to latch on. It's clear they've both gotten somewhat attached to Ash in their own way and I really hope we getting a fitting Sayounara episode. Some tears will be nice to see as well, it'll be cute. Iris will probably make the biggest fuss and go and sulk in a tree or something and say something like "Ash...you weren't a kid at all." in similar to Shaymin's swan song in the Giratina movie where it finally said it really did like Ash. Scraggy and Axew will battle and evolve. When it comes to Cilan, he'll say something about how traveling with friends and experiencing the world has given him a new found taste of Sommeliering and he'll go to take his S-Rank test.

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    I'd like it to be more emotional than the original trio splitting up. I can easily see Iris bursting into tears and wrapping her arms around Ash's leg, while Cilan can barely bring himself to speak.

    I have a feeling the BW trio splitting up will be the biggest impact a group had on the series...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    I'd like it to be more emotional than the original trio splitting up. I can easily see Iris bursting into tears and wrapping her arms around Ash's leg, while Cilan can barely bring himself to speak.

    I have a feeling the BW trio splitting up will be the biggest impact a group had on the series...
    I think that Iris wrapping her arms around Ash's leg and Clian barely being able to speak would be be a bit melodramatic. They'll be sad, but I don't think that they'll be balwing their eyes out or anything like that.

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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hidden Mew View Post
    I think that Iris wrapping her arms around Ash's leg and Clian barely being able to speak would be be a bit melodramatic. They'll be sad, but I don't think that they'll be balwing their eyes out or anything like that.
    Pretty sure he was being facetious. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masurao View Post
    Pretty sure he was being facetious. :P
    Unfortunately, I can't really tell that through the Internet, so in most cases, I take posts at face value.

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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hidden Mew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Masurao View Post
    Pretty sure he was being facetious. :P
    Unfortunately, I can't really tell that through the Internet, so in most cases, I take posts at face value.
    Fair enough, I can't say I wouldn't find said scenario amusing though. :P

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    Default Re: What level of emotion should there be when Iris and Cilan depart from Ash?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    I can easily see Iris bursting into tears and wrapping her arms around Ash's leg,
    Although I can see Iris crying for saying goodbye to his first real friend outside the Village and even hugging him most fans would throw the TV off the window, for sure, hohohoh, I can't imagine her wrapping around Ash's leg, assuming you weren't being facetious, but I know I would be in doubt about joining to the cry or laughing at the scene @_@


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    Quote Originally Posted by Metan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fighting Misty View Post
    I can easily see Iris bursting into tears and wrapping her arms around Ash's leg,
    Although I can see Iris crying for saying goodbye to her first real friend outside the Village and even hugging him most fans would throw the TV off the window, for sure, hohohoh, I can't imagine her wrapping around Ash's leg, assuming you weren't being facetious, but I know I would be in doubt about joining to the cry or laughing at the scene @_@
    No main girl has ever hugged Ash before, it won't happen. She'll likely be the most emotional about the group splitting but that's it.

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