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    I have a feeling Ash will catch 2 more pokemon before the beginning of the Unova league...

    That will give him 12 pokemon... 2 full teams to be used in the league battle.

    Now looking at types both previous and current we may be able to determine what those final two may be...

    Ash currently has in rotation...
    Electric, Fire, Grass, Bug, Normal, Flying, Water, Ground, Fighting, Dark, Rock

    In Kanto he had...
    Electric, Fire, Flying, Normal, Bug, Poison, Grass, Water, Fighting

    In Orange Islands he caught...
    Normal, Ice, Water

    In Johto he caught...
    Bug, Fighting, Grass, Fire, Water, Flying, Normal, Ground, Poison

    In Hoenn & Battle Frontier he caught...
    Flying, Normal, Grass, Water, Fire, Ice

    and in Sinnoh he caught...
    Flying, Normal, Grass, Ground, Fire, Fighting, Water, Dragon

    Here is the distributions of Ash’s Pokemon over types
    Electric x 1, Flying x8, Normal x8, Fire x4, Water x8, Grass x6, Fighting x5, Dark x2, Bug x4, Ground x5, Rock x1, Poison x3, Dragon x1, Ice x2, Ghost x0 (1 if you count Haunter), Steel x0, Psychic x0

    Looking at this we can see that the only recurrent types he hasn't captured in Unova are Poison and Ice. In addition the only types he hasn't caught are Steel, Psychic, & Ghost... as well as technically Electric as he received Pikachu and didn't catch him. As well he has not caught a pure Normal type since Aipom.

    By looking at this we can determine that at least one of the two potential final catches will give him one of the six types mentioned above... the final may be either among those types or a type he has already caught in Unova. Being since Unova now has previous generation pokemon one of the final two may also lay among the newly reintroduced pokemon.

    However this is all theory, for all we know Ash may instead rotate in previous pokemon of his to fill out his League pokemon, or remain with his team of ten pokemon. I for one would love to finally see the return of Ash's Primeape. I still feel it is necessary for the writers to have him catch at least one new pokemon in the new "season".

    There are over two dozen pokemon I can see on the New Unova list of pokemon as potential captures for Ash, although determining which the creators would choose is debatable.

    I wonder what others think about this theory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWrando View Post
    I have a feeling Ash will catch 2 more pokemon before the beginning of the Unova league...

    That will give him 12 pokemon... 2 full teams to be used in the league battle.

    Now looking at types both previous and current we may be able to determine what those final two may be...

    Ash currently has in rotation...
    Electric, Fire, Grass, Bug, Normal, Flying, Water, Ground, Fighting, Dark, Rock

    In Kanto he had...
    Electric, Fire, Flying, Normal, Bug, Poison, Grass, Water, Fighting

    In Orange Islands he caught...
    Normal, Ice, Water

    In Johto he caught...
    Bug, Fighting, Grass, Fire, Water, Flying, Normal, Ground, Poison

    In Hoenn & Battle Frontier he caught...
    Flying, Normal, Grass, Water, Fire, Ice

    and in Sinnoh he caught...
    Flying, Normal, Grass, Ground, Fire, Fighting, Water, Dragon

    Here is the distributions of Ash’s Pokemon over types
    Electric x 1, Flying x8, Normal x8, Fire x4, Water x8, Grass x6, Fighting x5, Dark x2, Bug x4, Ground x5, Rock x1, Poison x3, Dragon x1, Ice x2, Ghost x0 (1 if you count Haunter), Steel x0, Psychic x0

    Looking at this we can see that the only recurrent types he hasn't captured in Unova are Poison and Ice. In addition the only types he hasn't caught are Steel, Psychic, & Ghost... as well as technically Electric as he received Pikachu and didn't catch him. As well he has not caught a pure Normal type since Aipom.

    By looking at this we can determine that at least one of the two potential final catches will give him one of the six types mentioned above... the final may be either among those types or a type he has already caught in Unova. Being since Unova now has previous generation pokemon one of the final two may also lay among the newly reintroduced pokemon.

    However this is all theory, for all we know Ash may instead rotate in previous pokemon of his to fill out his League pokemon, or remain with his team of ten pokemon. I for one would love to finally see the return of Ash's Primeape. I still feel it is necessary for the writers to have him catch at least one new pokemon in the new "season".

    There are over two dozen pokemon I can see on the New Unova list of pokemon as potential captures for Ash, although determining which the creators would choose is debatable.

    I wonder what others think about this theory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GWrando View Post
    That will give him 12 pokemon... 2 full teams to be used in the league battle.
    I can't imagine him doing a full battle in a league without Pikachu, which is why I think 11 is the right number - and why I used to think he'd make one more capture. I've suggested an Ice type in the past because it fulfils most of the type advantages of a second fire type, and gives him cover against Dragon that he doesn't have with any of his existing Pokemon. I think we're now too far along for him to make another capture before the league (with the exception of Meloetta, which could occur as soon as Team Rocket actually threatens it, and I think therefore is an unpredictable factor).

    I think more important than the distribution of types is the distribution of effective moves and type advantages. BW is odd in that he's caught lots of Pokemon that have far more resistances/weaknesses - compared to when he seemed to spend most of his time with pure water, grass, electric and fire/fighting, flying/normal and just the one with a 'unique' typing (or to be boring normal types like Snorlax/Aipom). As such, I think he needs to balance out those extremes and have sets of six that cover most type advantages and disadvantages, rather than aiming for either uniqueness or consistency.

    I think that means Leavanny is going to get used a bit in the Junior Cup, because it's terrible moveset makes it's weaknesses too much to overcome. If it had powerful bug attacks it would be useful, but as it stands, against Dark he's better served by the three Pokemon with Fighting type moves, against Psychic he has two Dark types and against Grass he has fire and flying types.

    Pikachu, Boldore, Unfezant, Krokorok, Pignite and Palpitoad is probably his most balanced attacking team of 6 - covering every type except Dragon with something super effective, which again highlights the need for Ash to get at the very least an Ice type move if not an Ice type Pokemon. Palpitoad learning Icy Wind (it's a BW2 move tutor) would be the most convenient, otherwise add Oshawott in for Unfezant for Ice Beam (as a TM) or Icy Wind (move tutor). Unless Snivy evolves twice by the league, none of his Pokemon have even theoretical Dragon moves (except for the Farfetch'd possibility of Snivy having forgotten that it was chain bred with Twister).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GWrando View Post
    That will give him 12 pokemon... 2 full teams to be used in the league battle.

    Pikachu, Boldore, Unfezant, Krokorok, Pignite and Palpitoad is probably his most balanced attacking team of 6 - covering every type except Dragon with something super effective, which again highlights the need for Ash to get at the very least an Ice type move if not an Ice type Pokemon. Palpitoad learning Icy Wind (it's a BW2 move tutor) would be the most convenient, otherwise add Oshawott in for Unfezant for Ice Beam (as a TM) or Icy Wind (move tutor). Unless Snivy evolves twice by the league, none of his Pokemon have even theoretical Dragon moves (except for the Farfetch'd possibility of Snivy having forgotten that it was chain bred with Twister).
    I think , Ash's Palpitoad should evolve Seismitoad & learn how to use Ice Punch since Seismitoad can increase the power of his Punch!
    Is there any non-legendary pokemon who is cooler then Dragonite but not cooler then Garchomp???
    I mean , Ash could have a Garchomp now but It doesn't feel like a Good Idea.
    But I don't think I can bear with Iris's Dragonite in the rest of the series unless Ash get himself a better pokemon !
    Seriously , Are Writer gone insane ??? They could give Iris A Flygon , Salamence or Druddigon but A Dragonite!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe View Post
    Pikachu, Boldore, Unfezant, Krokorok, Pignite and Palpitoad is probably his most balanced attacking team of 6 - covering every type except Dragon with something super effective, which again highlights the need for Ash to get at the very least an Ice type move if not an Ice type Pokemon. Palpitoad learning Icy Wind (it's a BW2 move tutor) would be the most convenient, otherwise add Oshawott in for Unfezant for Ice Beam (as a TM) or Icy Wind (move tutor). Unless Snivy evolves twice by the league, none of his Pokemon have even theoretical Dragon moves (except for the Farfetch'd possibility of Snivy having forgotten that it was chain bred with Twister).
    He should catch a Deino, since Iris didn't get that one from earlier. Just to troll Iris. It would be a nice callback to when Ash caught a Palpitoad and Trip didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Kishore View Post
    Is there any non-legendary pokemon who is cooler then Dragonite but not cooler then Garchomp???
    I dunno but seeing Ash with a Krookodile - a croc and TRex-like Pokemon not to forget that COOL evil sunglasses-like pattern in his eyes, i think i'm already contented. Heck, he's even cooler than the Unova's resident pseudo-dragon and way cooler than that Orange Barney! Plus, that croc can learn Outrage too. I think that's all enough to cover for Ash's lack of Ice Pokemon. He can be treated as his Dark as well as his Dragon Pokemon.

    As for the others, i think Pignite should stay as Pignite. He has already proven himself to his former trainer and evolving him again won't add anything to his story, the same way Grotle should not have evolved into Torterra. He's already accomplished and cuter in that form.

    Snivy's an already powerful Pokemon before she was captured, so seeing her unevolved is somehow awkward. Like the other guys here, having seen Mei's Serperior made me more want to see Ash's Snivy evolve all the way.

    Oshawott. Im not sure. But if Snivy's going to evolve all the way to Serperior, i won't expect him to do the same. Guess it's not yet the turn for Ash to have a fully evolved water starter.

    I dont think Ash should capture anymore. All i wanted to see (as ive already posted pages ago) is for his Non-Unova Pokemon to make a come back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyro-Nitar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Kishore View Post
    Is there any non-legendary pokemon who is cooler then Dragonite but not cooler then Garchomp???
    I dunno but seeing Ash with a Krookodile - a croc and TRex-like Pokemon not to forget that COOL evil sunglasses-like pattern in his eyes, i think i'm already contented. Heck, he's even cooler than the Unova's resident pseudo-dragon and way cooler than that Orange Barney! Plus, that croc can learn Outrage too. I think that's all enough to cover for Ash's lack of Ice Pokemon. He can be treated as his Dark as well as his Dragon Pokemon.

    As for the others, i think Pignite should stay as Pignite. He has already proven himself to his former trainer and evolving him again won't add anything to his story, the same way Grotle should not have evolved into Torterra. He's already accomplished and cuter in that form.

    Snivy's an already powerful Pokemon before she was captured, so seeing her unevolved is somehow awkward. Like the other guys here, having seen Mei's Serperior made me more want to see Ash's Snivy evolve all the way.

    Oshawott. Im not sure. But if Snivy's going to evolve all the way to Serperior, i won't expect him to do the same. Guess it's not yet the turn for Ash to have a fully evolved water starter.

    I dont think Ash should capture anymore. All i wanted to see (as ive already posted pages ago) is for his Non-Unova Pokemon to make a come back.
    I don't Think Krookodile is cooler then Dragonite in any way !
    Plus , Krookodile can't fly while Dragonite is one of the fastest flying pokemon !
    Dragonite can easily take down Krookodile using Arial advantage just like in Skyla Gym.
    Unless Krookodile know a Move that can shut down Dragonite Arial advantage but Krookodile can't learn any move like that!
    And I can't think of any move Combination which can Create a Artificial Wing for Krookodile to fly like how Zoey did with Leafrion !
    I wish Writer gave Ash a Golurk if they were planning on Giving Iris a Dragonite!
    Atleast , Golurk would have been much better match for a Dragonite rather then Seismitoad or Krookodile !

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    Um, Stone edge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Kishore View Post
    I don't Think Krookodile is cooler then Dragonite in any way !
    Plus , Krookodile can't fly while Dragonite is one of the fastest flying pokemon !
    Dragonite can easily take down Krookodile using Arial advantage just like in Skyla Gym.
    Unless Krookodile know a Move that can shut down Dragonite Arial advantage but Krookodile can't learn any move like that!
    And I can't think of any move Combination which can Create a Artificial Wing for Krookodile to fly like how Zoey did with Leafrion !
    I wish Writer gave Ash a Golurk if they were planning on Giving Iris a Dragonite!
    Atleast , Golurk would have been much better match for a Dragonite rather then Seismitoad or Krookodile !
    It's Krookodile, you know, the red one with more sinister looking patch in the eyes. Not to forget his awesome personality. Iris' Orange Barney is the grumpy one while the Ash's Red Croc is intimidating and badass. Yes, that red croc cannot fly and so, actually, was Garchomp - it was supposed to be based on Land Sharks why the hell it's flying?

    and as @Ash's Battle Coach posted the red croc already has Stone Edge, which i think is super effective against Flying Type? This Pokemon was almost treated as dragon type. It can learn Outrage, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Claw and Dragon Tail. The only move it cannot learn via tutor is Draco Meteor. It can also learn Aerial Ace. Imagine a fight between Orange Barney and Red Croc. Orange Barney may have an advantage in the Air it still cannot fight underground like Red Croc can. It can dig its way and randomly throw Stone Edge under the ground. It can also use Outrage in a surprise attack or use either Dark or Dragon Pulse underground etc etc. There's a still lot more of possibilities and combinations.

    I'd still prefer this
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    Cool as the croc is i wouldn't mind a Zweilous for Ash. Deino has had its minute of fame, but now it's time for Zweilous to bring the pain!
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    I don't see how Dihead would fits Satoshi, plus he already have two Dark Types, there is no need for another.

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    I hope Ash captures Meleotta. He needs it and it needs him. I think it has a strong chance too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    I don't see how Dihead would fits Satoshi, plus he already have two Dark Types, there is no need for another.
    Ash typically captures abused pokemon or pokemon with fighting spirit. Zweilous could fit the 2nd category perfectly. Besides those two are viewed as fighting and ground types. Zweilous would be the dragon.

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    I hope Ash captures Meleotta. He needs it and it needs him. I think it has a strong chance too.
    I don't see that happening to be honest. Legendary capture curse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyro-Nitar View Post
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    I don't Think Krookodile is cooler then Dragonite in any way !
    Plus , Krookodile can't fly while Dragonite is one of the fastest flying pokemon !
    Dragonite can easily take down Krookodile using Arial advantage just like in Skyla Gym.
    Unless Krookodile know a Move that can shut down Dragonite Arial advantage but Krookodile can't learn any move like that!
    And I can't think of any move Combination which can Create a Artificial Wing for Krookodile to fly like how Zoey did with Leafrion !
    I wish Writer gave Ash a Golurk if they were planning on Giving Iris a Dragonite!
    Atleast , Golurk would have been much better match for a Dragonite rather then Seismitoad or Krookodile !
    It's Krookodile, you know, the red one with more sinister looking patch in the eyes. Not to forget his awesome personality. Iris' Orange Barney is the grumpy one while the Ash's Red Croc is intimidating and badass. Yes, that red croc cannot fly and so, actually, was Garchomp - it was supposed to be based on Land Sharks why the hell it's flying?

    and as @Ash's Battle Coach posted the red croc already has Stone Edge, which i think is super effective against Flying Type? This Pokemon was almost treated as dragon type. It can learn Outrage, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Claw and Dragon Tail. The only move it cannot learn via tutor is Draco Meteor. It can also learn Aerial Ace. Imagine a fight between Orange Barney and Red Croc. Orange Barney may have an advantage in the Air it still cannot fight underground like Red Croc can. It can dig its way and randomly throw Stone Edge under the ground. It can also use Outrage in a surprise attack or use either Dark or Dragon Pulse underground etc etc. There's a still lot more of possibilities and combinations.

    I'd still prefer this
    Stone Edge was useless in Skyla's Gym & it got repel by Swoobat's Gust's !
    Plus, Krokorok couldn't deal with Vanillish in Brycen because it float in the Air!
    Plus , Dragonite fast so it can easily evade Stone Edge !
    Krookodile need more then just Stone Edge to deal with Dragonite!
    Krookodile might had chance with ''Foul Play'' but I don't know how ''Foul Play'' work.
    All I know that it use's Foe's Power against it so it would be super effective on Dragonite since he has a high Attack Star!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Kishore View Post
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    I don't Think Krookodile is cooler then Dragonite in any way !
    Plus , Krookodile can't fly while Dragonite is one of the fastest flying pokemon !
    Dragonite can easily take down Krookodile using Arial advantage just like in Skyla Gym.
    Unless Krookodile know a Move that can shut down Dragonite Arial advantage but Krookodile can't learn any move like that!
    And I can't think of any move Combination which can Create a Artificial Wing for Krookodile to fly like how Zoey did with Leafrion !
    I wish Writer gave Ash a Golurk if they were planning on Giving Iris a Dragonite!
    Atleast , Golurk would have been much better match for a Dragonite rather then Seismitoad or Krookodile !
    It's Krookodile, you know, the red one with more sinister looking patch in the eyes. Not to forget his awesome personality. Iris' Orange Barney is the grumpy one while the Ash's Red Croc is intimidating and badass. Yes, that red croc cannot fly and so, actually, was Garchomp - it was supposed to be based on Land Sharks why the hell it's flying?

    and as @Ash's Battle Coach posted the red croc already has Stone Edge, which i think is super effective against Flying Type? This Pokemon was almost treated as dragon type. It can learn Outrage, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Claw and Dragon Tail. The only move it cannot learn via tutor is Draco Meteor. It can also learn Aerial Ace. Imagine a fight between Orange Barney and Red Croc. Orange Barney may have an advantage in the Air it still cannot fight underground like Red Croc can. It can dig its way and randomly throw Stone Edge under the ground. It can also use Outrage in a surprise attack or use either Dark or Dragon Pulse underground etc etc. There's a still lot more of possibilities and combinations.

    I'd still prefer this
    Stone Edge was useless in Skyla's Gym & it got repel by Swoobat's Gust's !
    Plus, Krokorok couldn't deal with Vanillish in Brycen because it float in the Air!
    Plus , Dragonite fast so it can easily evade Stone Edge !
    Krookodile need more then just Stone Edge to deal with Dragonite!
    Krookodile might had chance with ''Foul Play'' but I don't know how ''Foul Play'' work.
    All I know that it use's Foe's Power against it so it would be super effective on Dragonite since he has a high Attack Star!
    iF krokorok is established to be struggling against Air pokemon, he'll probaly work to overcome that. Krookidile is way cooler than Dragonite, esspecually with Sunglasses :D
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