I didn't think about this until today but maybe World Tourneys can replace the Don Battles? Having a different type experts Tourney each time would be an interesting formula, at least for me. Even if the pacing is slower, I don't know if they could pull off balancing Don Battles/World Tourneys and the new girls' Contests (or whatever she might do) though...
Im not a fan of Trip myself. The reason I wouldn't be opposed to him coming back is in hopes he's developed. With this new region, im expecting a Kanto-Johto like transition; so maybe in this next region Trip could mature and develop kind of like how Gary did in Johto. I agree he was handled poorly, though. Im in the majority that preferred Cheren as a rival instead. Him loosing to Ash does seem like a fitting end to the rivalry, but one could argue that the fact he lost in the first round could give that rivalry more headway. Maybe Trip will learn to not focus on just one Pokemon, but balance his team out instead. So im willing to put up with Trip in the X/Y series if he does indeed grow and develop. The rival for X and Y would be nice too, I guess im content with either.
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I think that losing to Alder in the Junior Cup and being a bit more respectful afterwards is suppose to be development for Trip, along with Ash defeating him. I don't think that losing in the first round could give their rivalry more headway. Most of Gary's maturity was off-screen anyway, so I don't think that's the best example to follow. Unlike with Trip, Ash never faced Gary in battle during the first season and their rivalry was unresolved by the time Johto started. Ash defeating his rivals is basically the end of their rivalry and I don't see how it would be any different with Trip, especially when it didn't seem like the writers were that interested in their so-called rivalry by a certain point in the series. I don't think that losing to Ash in the first round of the Unova league really bothered him. Seeing the rival want to beat Ash, as opposed to the other way around, sounds interesting and maybe that could have worked with a rookie rival, instead of overpowering him like what happened with Trip, but since Ash already defeated Trip in a league match, there isn't anything left to do with their rivalry to warrant Trip still being around. Plus, if they couldn't create a halfway decent rivalry between the two in this series and they didn't care much about doing much with Trip compared to the other rival characters, I seriously doubt that they'd be interested in developing him for the next series. I'm still leading towards either the X/Y rival from the games, who hopefully will be interesting, or going the AG route with Ash just improving on his own without a rival, which really wouldn't hurt him at this point to be honest.Originally Posted by Umbreon19
And they should be way more crafty enough to make up episodes that could casually go with one another. Everyone gave up on Cheren when Trip appeared as the rival - however, he's scheduled to appear as a gym leader, when they don't have much to market about Gen 5. (probably as a last resort to make up for the horrible league arc).
And Hilda could've been in the group as a senior trainer who's interested in the legends of the Tao Trio, or something. Surely they could've thought of something...
or maybe not. I kinda lost my faith in the anime team after watching the league arc.
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Piplup, which still has merchandise selling in Japan due to how popular it is, and Cynthia appears in the post-storyline content of B2/W2 as well.
Cheren appearing as a Gym Leader at this point isn't that much different than having Marlon appear months after B2/W2 were released. It has been a bit longer since the release date in this case, but not drastically different all the same. I don't know if they would be interested in Hilda doing something that she couldn't actively do in the games. May and Dawn being Coordinators at least is something players can do with their video game counterparts in their respective games, but Hilda doesn't research the legendary Pokemon of Unova in the games. The idea itself sounds like it could be interesting, but I also don't think that it would go well. Not so much because of the Unova League, but just how they've handled female characters without battle active goals. That is one of the reasons why I really hope that X/Y will bring back Contests or introduce something new for the female trainer in the group to participate in frequently throughout the series.Originally Posted by Dark Blueberry
And even though Cynthia appears in the post-game content - does she even do something? She just stays in Caitilins house 24/7 and doesn't even contribute to any sort of mini-quest. She just battles the player and that's all. The fact that she's in Undella Town might have given her something to do - like the Abyssal Ruins. But they never bothered with that, and gave Zinzolin the job to give the player some help on translation. And why Dawn? There WAS that Singing Piplup distribute event in my country - but it was over even before Dawn made her BW debut. I honestly don't get the point why they wanted to market Piplup when there are far better BW pokemon to market. Instead of bringing back Dawn and Cynthia for pointless fillers, they could've covered Snivy's story instead and market HER. And that Meloetta arc with Giovanni - I know Cynthia barely did anything, but Alder could've easily filled that spot. It's that Aqua-Magma arc all over again where a completely unrelated champion takes the spotlight of the region's respective champion.
She's still part of the post-storyline content, even if she doesn't do much beyond battling, so she would be promoting the games, and I think that they were trying to bring in popular characters from the previous series to help boost ratings and showcase older Pokemon again. Dawn was also popular and Piplup is still has some new merchandise that sells in Japan. They wanted to bring in older Pokemon for the second season, instead of focusing on BW Pokemon.Originally Posted by Dark Blueberry
...bringing in older pokemon to market when B2W2 was just released? Meh, Cynthia was just there because they had to promote Caitilin XDD But in all seriousness, Rosa could've been better - she promotes B2W2, and if they wanted to bring back older Pokemon, they could've just given her Riolu or something since Riolu is popular as well. (yes I know Kotetsu exists but this is just IF)She's still part of the post-storyline content, even if she doesn't do much beyond battling, so she would be promoting the games, and I think that they were trying to bring in popular characters from the previous series to help boost ratings and showcase older Pokemon again. Dawn was also popular and Piplup is still has some new merchandise that sells in Japan. They wanted to bring in older Pokemon for the second season, instead of focusing on BW Pokemon.
Given the amount of promo the season two had around the time B2/W2 had, I thought it was obvious that they brought in older Pokemon for that purpose. I do like the idea of Rosa appearing with a Riolu since chances are excellent that I would like her anime counterpart a lot more than Cameron, but I still think that they wouldn't want to use a playable character for something that they can't do in the games. Although, Rosa taking Cameron's place does sound quite nice. In any case, I think that we're drifting a bit too off-topic here, so let's get back to discussing how the new games will impact the anime.Originally Posted by Dark Blueberry
Since Ash will most likely get whatever the next early route bird will be, I do hope that they'll do more with it than they did with Unfezant. Giving it a better moveset and better battles to make it stand out would be a big help.
i apologize for being off topic but is there a filler arc between unova and the next region (x and y)? I am assuming that generation 6 will not start until October.
Also, one thing that I'd really like to happen in the next series would be Ash getting a fully evolved Water Pokemon. An evolved Water starter would be ideal, even though we don't know what Froakie will evolve into, but just having another evolved Water type would be great. While Ash does have some good Water types, he has very few evolved Water types, especially compared to his Fire and Grass types, so Ash getting a fully evolved Water type would be really cool to see.
Thanks for the reply. I am wandering how long the N arc will be, surely they can't go on for 7 months?
As for the evolved water type in Generation 6, i agree, although i would prefer to know what Froakie's evolution looks like. If it has a terrible design, then i would prefer it Ash didn't get Froakie and got another evolved water type instead. I really like Fennekin and hopefully it has a great evolution but Ash does not even need another fire type, let alone an evolved one. Neither does he need a grass type.
Yeah, it would be better to see what Froakie's evolutions look like before, but I'd just like to see him have more evolved Water types. The only ones he has right now are Kingler and Palpitoad with Kingler being the only fully evolved Water type he has, so another strong fully evolved Water type, starter or otherwise would be great. I like Fennekin too, but I think it would work better with the female trainer design wise. Plus, I'd still rather see Ash getting one starter Pokemon or two at the most than all three again. I imagine that he'll at least get Chespin since Ash always get at least the Grass starter in each new generation.Originally Posted by hhhdmt