The general Pokemon League / end of Sinnoh / Generation V thread

[Dogasu]

I decided that the Pokémon Anime forum was getting cluttered with too many threads about the same thing. So, let's use this thread as a general thread covering the end of Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl.

Anything pertaining to the league - who will participate, which pokemon will be used, whether or not certain characters will win, the possibility of an Elite Four arc - as well as anything relating to the end of the journey in Sinnoh can be discussed here.

[The Fighting Misty]

I think Ash should win the Sinnoh league, with Ash Vs. Paul in the finals. I see no one for Ash to lose this time.

All the Sinnoh Elite 4 have been properly debuted with numerous hints dropped about Ash getting to challenge them, if it really doesn't happen the writers will have led us in the wrong direction and it'll seem like an underwhelming conclusion to DP.

Ash Vs. Cynthia is how DP should end, but I hope they have enough time to do so.

[Ryuutakeshi]

On the Conway 5th gen thing, that might explain his being there. I kinda felt that to be random. But totally in character for him.

[PDL]

I honestly don't think they'll make the Sept 2010 "deadline" for Gen V that people tote around like fact.

Also, with Gallade being the last non-legendary to debut in the current generation. It could be safely be said that there won't be any new Pokémon debuts. Unless they decide to unload a legendary or a Gen V Pokémon without warning (Kinda like what they did with Blaziken in the Silver Conference).

That being said, they'll probably showcase a ton of Pokémon that haven't been seen in the DP saga thus far, including Barry's full team, previously unseen monsters from Paul's reserves and Conway and Nando's full teams. At the same time, I'm also suspecting that they'll also introduce yet another new super trainer who ends up wiping the floor with Ash and manages to win the league.

Also, if it comes to pass that Gen V gets pushed back... There's the possiblity of another battle frontier. It would be a shame if those frontier brains get shafted and end up being abandoned like some other game characters.

That's alot of speculation to mull over :\

[The Fighting Misty]

There won't be any Battle Frontier.

If there's extra time there will likely be used for the Elite 4, not Brains that have no reason to be shown.

[Ryuutakeshi]

The brains have every reason to be in.

[The Fighting Misty]

Not especially. If the writers were going to do them they would have happened by now before Sinnoh ended.

There could be a rematch with Palmer but even that probably won't happen. What honestly ever gave any of you the impression of another Battle Frontier arc?

It was bad enough that people actually believed Ash would travel through Johto again, (thank god that didn't happen), so I wouldn't count on it.

At the very least, I am really happy no Johto re-visit wound up happening. I feel like we dodged a bullet there.

[Mooites]

I hope Paul moves along to Gen 5. Also, the new girl will probably have short shorts. Just saying.

[Duckgon Z]

Like I kept saying, E4 talk is mute if the games are released in September.

The 5th Gen stuff is coming and the only reason this is different is because of the recent Nintendo policy on being tight lidded on new game leaks (which basically means stuff like sneak peak Pokemon in the 2nd movie of a saga probably won't happen again). The anime won't just go on while their are shiny new games and Pokemon to promote.

If it happens, but if it doesn't, too bad but you should have saw it coming with the game date.

[PDL]

There won't be any Battle Frontier.

If there's extra time there will likely be used for the Elite 4, not Brains that have no reason to be shown.

Have you even considered that there might not even be an E4 challenge?

I'm mostly thinking this because we've already seen how each of them and their strongest Pokémon battle.

There isn't anything that the writers could suprise us with. We've seen what they are capable of, so why on earth would the writers show us that again?

They're far more interested in showcasing the new unseen stuff rather then stuff we already have seen. Even though they do this in a predicable manner.

Also quit being so insistant. You'll probably be dissapointed in the end.

[The Fighting Misty]

Have you even considered that there might not even be an E4 challenge?

Then:

a) Why debut them all properly in the same region (never done before), and show shots of the leagues with Lucian battling Cynthia, Aaron battling Lucian, and have Ash/Paul constantly saying they want to win the Sinnoh league and challenge Cynthia?

b) Who is Ash to lose to in the league?

They debuted these characters throughout the region so we know who they are and their personalities. Seems like a set-up for later battles.

Also quit being so insistant. You'll probably be dissapointed in the end.

Well if I am wrong and there is no E4 arc, it will simply be viewed as terrible writing and I won't ever believe any foreshadowing the writers do again.

[Daxdiv]

b) Who is Ash to lose to in the league?

Who ever the -Son character is in the Diamond and Pearl Arc. I can somewhat see him as being like Harrison and have a Gen V Pokemon or two on his team that convinces Ash to travel to Gen V land.

[The Fighting Misty]

Who ever the -Son character is in the Diamond and Pearl Arc. I can somewhat see him as being like Harrison and have a Gen V Pokemon or two on his team that convinces Ash to travel to Gen V land.

The problem with that idea is the writers don't seem to like to introduce one-shot rivals anymore.

The Grand Festival has no new rival out of nowhere, the league already has 4 established rivals. Throwing in a new guy there in the last-minute would seem even more odd than past leagues.

I dunno, I hope the writers are done with the "Ash loses to Richie and the -son family" nonsense.

[V Faction]

Like I kept saying, E4 talk is mute if the games are released in September.

I believe you mean "moot"

Well if I am wrong and there is no E4 arc, it will simply be viewed as terrible writing and I won't ever believe any foreshadowing the writers do again.

...Mmm-hmm.

Hello, I am Dogasu.

Your own thoughts on the matter, Dogasu?

I'm still wondering... If Nando is indeed making an appearance in the Sinnoh League, if he'll use the same Pokemon he uses for the Grand Festival or if he'll have an entire team dedicated to battling. The character strikes me as the type to maybe go for a mix of familiar and unfamiliar candidates.

[VeggiePopper]

Well if I am wrong and there is no E4 arc, it will simply be viewed as terrible writing and I won't ever believe any foreshadowing the writers do again.

YOU'll view it as terrible writing, don't put words in everybody else's mouths, please.