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    Uhm.. Nope
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    Default Re: Could Satoshi actually WIN the Higaki Conference?

    I was a little surprised at all the people saying he didn't deserve to win. But looking at his team and what's been going on during the whole saga, I would have to agree.

    But looking again, I'd say Pikachu, the starters, Krookodile, and Leavanny, who actually seem to get the most training and focus, and Ash does pretty well with them. Maybe Scraggy, too, if it works a little harder. Ignoring the under-trained or ignored reserves, I have high hopes for these guys.

    That being said, I have no hope for Ash. I want him to win, but I don't want to set myself up for disappointment.
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    According to that 1-step-ahead theory, Ash is suppose to lose in the semi or final match. :P

    BW has been so unpredictable sometimes, it might be one-of-those times where they can easily troll us, in good as well as in the bad way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchikid View Post
    (Maybe Satoshi is going to lose against Iris. >:D)
    Nah, Tobias' son will compete out of nowhere with a Zekrom and win :Yao:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbreon19 View Post
    As far as the adding an important COTD battle goes, I don't see why not. They have indeed done it before. (Katie from the Hoenn League as someone mentioned was a 6v6 battle, top 16 I believe..) So beefing up a COTD to give Ash a run for his money but ultimately loose is not out of the question. That fills the "filler full battle gap".
    But Katie wasn't prioritized over Morrison, let alone Tyson. We know that defeating Kotetsu will only earn Ash a Top 4 position at best, which means that if he were not to lose to Virgil in the next round, some other character would come out of nowhere and be treated as more important than Kotetsu. Not to mention the fact that Ash didn't have any established rivals in Hoenn until right before the league, whereas now he has Trip, Bianca and Stephan, who will be eliminated in the earlier rounds. Why would the writers not make the last two rounds of the league as meaningful as possible?

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    Nope, he'll lose either way. They will come up with a plot device just so he can lose. Or they will come up with some random charater. (ie John Dickson from the johto league episode)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adyniz View Post
    According to that 1-step-ahead theory, Ash is suppose to lose in the semi or final match. :P

    BW has been so unpredictable sometimes, it might be one-of-those times where they can easily troll us, in good as well as in the bad way.
    I like the idea of him loosing in the finales, that'd be pretty cool =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchikid View Post
    (Maybe Satoshi is going to lose against Iris. >:D)
    Isn't Iris ineligible? She probably has the Legend Badge, but she won't have any of the other eight.

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    Default Re: Could Satoshi actually WIN the Higaki Conference?

    His Pokemon are as strong as the writers want them to be, but no he won't win. Obviously Virgil is going to defeat him.

    Though, losing to an Eevee in the league would be incredibly underwhelming...while at the same time hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masurao View Post
    Though, losing to an Eevee in the league would be incredibly underwhelming...while at the same time hilarious.
    Same here. I can think of no better way to end Ash's horribly-handled Unova conquest: this is a testament to how far Ash hasn't come. Instead of going out like a badass taking down two legendaries, losing to a generic Pokemon is a fantastic representation of how Ash built up his lame-ass team, as well as how his strategies aren't nearly as innovative as they once were. Maybe this kind of loss will teach Ash to not rely on off-screen training to get by in the League next time. :P

    I don't care how relatively unimpressive his known rivals are this series; if Ash wins the League I will be quite insulted. He just doesn't deserve it this time. I'm gonna be bummed enough if he actually surpasses a Top 8 ranking already; all signs are pointing to Virgil at this point. Since type logic has been royally disrespected throughout this series, I wouldn't put it past the staff to make the Eeveelution team out to be on par with legendary Pokemon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinneth View Post

    I don't care how relatively unimpressive his known rivals are this series; if Ash wins the League I will be quite insulted. He just doesn't deserve it this time. I'm gonna be bummed enough if he actually surpasses a Top 8 ranking already; all signs are pointing to Virgil at this point. Since type logic has been royally disrespected throughout this series, I wouldn't put it past the staff to make the Eeveelution team out to be on par with legendary Pokemon.
    As it stands now, from what we know..

    Pre-Lims (Top 128) - Ash vs Trip
    Round 1 (Top 64) - Ash vs CoTD
    Round 2 (Top 32) - Ash vs CoTD/Stephan
    Round 3 (Top 16) - Ash vs CoTD/Stephan
    Round 4 (Top 8) - Ash vs Kotetsu

    So Ash will probably at least get Top 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masurao View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinneth View Post

    I don't care how relatively unimpressive his known rivals are this series; if Ash wins the League I will be quite insulted. He just doesn't deserve it this time. I'm gonna be bummed enough if he actually surpasses a Top 8 ranking already; all signs are pointing to Virgil at this point. Since type logic has been royally disrespected throughout this series, I wouldn't put it past the staff to make the Eeveelution team out to be on par with legendary Pokemon.
    As it stands now, from what we know..

    Pre-Lims (Top 128) - Ash vs Trip
    Round 1 (Top 64) - Ash vs CoTD
    Round 2 (Top 32) - Ash vs CoTD/Stephan
    Round 3 (Top 16) - Ash vs CoTD/Stephan
    Round 4 (Top 8) - Ash vs Kotetsu

    So Ash will probably at least get Top 4.
    Do we know that the trip battle is a Prelim or is it round 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash's Battle Coach View Post

    Do we know that the trip battle is a Prelim or is it round 1?
    Trip is in the pre-lims. Kotetsu vs Bianca is a 2 v 2 battle in the first round of the league itself.

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    Default Re: Could Satoshi actually WIN the Higaki Conference?

    Well, fuck my ass. That is terrible.

    Then again, I guess it can still be considered a downgrade from Sinnoh as Ash reached Top 4 by not only being able to beat 2 of Tobias' legendary Pokemon, but being the ONLY one in the entire League to pull that off. The finalist that went up against Tobias didn't do nearly as much, so really I consider Ash an informal Runner-Up of the Sinnoh League. :P Ash is making Top 4 this time by... losing to a bunch of Eeveelutions, including the basic Eevee. And that is really damn pathetic compared to the previous League's way of ushering Ash out of the running.

    Gotta take what I can get... ._.
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    So we're going to get 2 rushed cotd battles before we get to Kotetsu? That kinda sucks. Ash making it to top 4 kinda makes sense, even if he doesn't deserve it and its a bunch of bull and what not.

    Kanto - top 16
    Johto - top 8 using all his pokes
    Hoenn - Top 8 using only the pokes he caught in Hoenn
    Sinnoh - Top 4 Using all his pokes
    Unova - Top 4 Using only the pokes he caught in Unova

    There's a slight progression each time so

    Gen 6 - Runner up using all his pokes
    Gen 7 - Runner up using only gen 7 pokes
    Gen 8 - winner using all his pokes

    so by my calculations it will be a good 9/10 years before Ash wins a league haha. I would still prefer him to get a top 8 spot at the most here though

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