Well. In my opinion...no they could not. To be perfectly honest, Infernape isn't powerful enough to beat a legendary Pokemon. Sure, its moves have merit and all, but I just can't see it beating Darkrai nor can I see it beating Latios. To be perfectly honest, I really feel like it would be KOd in about three moves. Yeah, three moves and no more than that. I don't doubt its potential if he were to use it, but honestly, it's kind of not that powerful against his Latios. Okay, so then again, maybe Infernape could beat Darkrai because of type advantage, but remember how sometimes in the anime...the type disadvantage wins? So, there's that, too. So, it could beat Darkrai, then he'd send out his Latios and the Latios would use a Psychic attack and beat Infernape. That's just my thought on this. As for Charizard, well, with all the attacks it has, I'm pretty sure it could possibly beat both Darkrai and Latios. Especially Latios since we all know his Charizard knows a few Dragon Type attacks. Though, honestly, it could be an even match because Charizard is powerful, but not ~godly powerful~ if you catch my drift here... so, yeah, Charizard could, with no doubt beat both the Pokemon--but we'll never know what other Pokemon Tobias has, but I still think, despite that fact, Ash would never be able to beat him. (Hey, he could have a Celebi on his team, even.) But, yeah. You get my point. xD
Is your point that Infernape and Charizard could take out Darkrai and Latios, but that Ash would still lose a 6 v 6 against Tobias overall?
Without plot armor, yes. Tobias wasn't all that impressive, only his Pokemon were- but they're notasstrong as their movie portrayals.
They could beat them, but it doesn't mean they will. The writers decide who wins.
Torkoal against Darkrai?
Obey the Emperor!
I personally believe Jukain is on the same level as Lizardon and Goukazaru, especially the latter. Most of the things that happen in a battle are circumstantial, and so are the choices Satoshi makes. I would like to remind everyone of Jukain's performance against Nendoll before we get deep into the subject.
Jukain has been ordered to use Quick Attack, as Satoshi placed his bets on Jukain's speed rather than bulk. He wanted to handle the battle like he did with Jukain in many other battles. However, Satoshi isn't privy to the fact that Darkrai is super fast. He makes a tactical error and he pays to it by letting Jukain be exposed to a close ranged Ice Beam. However, had he knew that, he would have definitely focused more on dodging and attack with Jukain's Leaf Storm from a long range.
About Lizardon, now if we assume Satoshi goes in with the same wrong assumption about Darkrai's speed he would make a grave mistake. He would first begin with the obvious move, Flamethrower. Darkrai's Dark Pulse not only overwhelmed Cotoise but even managed to knock it one hit. In other words, even if you assume that Cotoise as weak, it is safe to say that it can still overwhelm Lizardon's flamethrower and deal a good number on it.
That will be round 1. But Satoshi will come to senses and try to dodge the second time (best case scenario). He could underestimate Darkrai's speed and try to move around, attack with Flamethrower from a distance (something he does and kinda fails in the Lizardon versus Kamex battle). But that won't work against Darkrai, because Darkrai is pretty fast (as proved by it's ability to weave around Draco Meteor) and possibly outspeed Lizardon (safe to assume because Lizardon is definitely slower than a Quick Attack using Jukain and Darkrai is faster than that) and either finish it off with a close ranged Dark Pulse or severely cripple it.
But if Ash follows the other tactic and tries to close down on Darkrai and use techniques like Steel Wing (Side Note: I love the name Hagane no Tsubasa) or Seismic Toss, then he will be punished immediately by a Dark Void and Dream Eater combination. If that happens Lizardon is a goner.
Now let's just assume by some kind of luck, Lizardon does get up before Dream Eater finishes it much like Jukain, it could immediately grab Darkrai and take off into the air and finish it off with Seismic Toss. But that means Lizardon is no better than Jukain here.
Now take Goukazaru. The obvious strategy Ash would use here is Mach Punch because that's how his head works. He always calls out a powerful and reliable long ranged move like Thunderbolt/Flamethrower or get close and attack using Quick Attack/Mach Punch. Now if Darkrai dodged Jukain's Quick Attack, the chances of Mach Punch hitting are slim. However, Goukazaru holds the distinct advantage of using another Mach Punch like he does against Oba. Now that could work and Darkrai could take a chunk of damage but what next? Takuto won't just sit and let Darkrai taking hits, so he would immediately order a Dark Void. Goukazaru is weak against Dream Eater and will immediately be cut off unlike in Jukain's case.
However, there's a very good chance Darkrai could be too injured to immediately use a Dark Void or a Dark Pulse. Then if Ash is on his top game, he would order consecutive Mach Punch and theoretically beat Darkrai before it could even recover. He used the repeated Quick Attack strategy against Kotetsu's Lucario, nothing is there to stop him here. So Goukazaru could potentially win without much damage.
So, all the three have equal chances of beating Darkrai. Well, maybe Goukazaru a bit higher but I definitely see Takuto trying to put him to sleep first rather than attack with Dark Pulse or Ice Beam. I tried making moves in Ash's style :o
Ever read an Ikari+Pearlshipping fic set in an AU?
Road to be a Pokemon Master <---Slightly Popular Tournament Fic featuring Ash.
Beyond Truths and Ideals<--Featuring a clash between Ash, N, Team Rocket,Team Plasma and much more.
50 Shippings to Boot With<--Mega Project to write 50 One-shots for 50 different Shippings.
Charizard has shown that he can handle himself pretty well in battles with Legendaries and he has defeated Nolan's Articuno. I think Charizard would've been able to show Trollbias who's boss. I think Infernape would fare rather well against Darkrai since it didn't have any moves that could really devastate Infernape, and plus Infernape did have a super effective move, though its base power is only 40, though he does get STAB and double damage since Mach Punch is super effective.
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