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    Default Re: Could Ash's Charizard or Infernape beat Tobias's Latios or Darkrai?

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    Could easily see Charizard beating both, especially Latios. An air battle with a Dragon move and he's golden. Infernape wouldn't do great against Latios, most likely losing, but I think he would have a shot against Darkrai. Type advantage plus his high speed and dig in order to dodge Dark Void. If he can dodge Dark void then he only has Ice beam and Dark pulse to contend with, both not very effective against Infernape.

    In fact, Infernape may even do better against Darkrai than Charizard would.
    How should Charizard be able to handle Darkrai?
    Oh you know, because he's super powerful.

    Sceptile managed it with a couple of leaf blades. I'm sure Charizard can handle it. Plus he may still have had seismic toss in his move set at that point.
    Charizard is super overrated. But I agree that he could win if he had Seismic Toss.
    In what way is he Overrated? He's shown time and time again that he's extremely powerful
    He is powerful and has proofed it many times but he is not unbeatable. I can mention a lot of pokemons who can beat him. For example Cilans Crustle or Ashs Palpitoad. Against Darkrai he would probably be put to sleep and hit by Dream Eater which would inflict massihe damage on him. One Dark Pulse could probably finish him off after that. If Darkrai has fighted other pokemons before Charizard then Charizard would have a big chance of winning but otherwise no.
    Please tell me you're kidding. The Idea of Palpitoad being able to beat Charizard is just laughable (I get the sneaking suspicion that you are just a tad biased when it comes to Palpitoad). And If Crustle and Charizard were to battle (which would be a cool battle), I could still see Charizard coming out on top. Experience can outweigh type advantage.

    And about the Dream eater thing, why would that do massive amounts of damage??? Same thing could be said about Sceptile and he woke up and beat Darkrai, after being hit by a super effective Ice beam and a Dream eater
    I dont think its laughable. Palpatoad still has The whole water Type advantage over charizard.... Only uf charizard us GROUNDED though... Get it??
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    In my honest opinion I could sooner see Ash's oshawott single handedly taking on Sceptile, Bulbasaur, And Bayleef and winning before Palpitoad beats Charizard.

    Also anything sceptile can do Charizard can do better. So yes he could beat one of those.

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    Palpitoad beating Charizard? EL OH EL.

    It's even been stated by the Pokémon people that Charizard is Ash's strongest Pokémon. The Japanese preview summary for BW116 even stated such. Charizard is one of Ash's most iconic Pokémon, second only to Pikachu, and his most powerful one. Charizard will always been one of Ash's go to Pokémon for years to come. Palpitoad is just another Tauros or Kingler.

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    Palpitoad beating Charizard? EL OH EL.

    It's even been stated by the Pokémon people that Charizard is Ash's strongest Pokémon. The Japanese preview summary for BW116 even stated such. Charizard is one of Ash's most iconic Pokémon, second only to Pikachu, and his most powerful one. Charizard will always been one of Ash's go to Pokémon for years to come. Palpitoad is just another Tauros or Kingler.
    Only because of that Charizard is stated to be Ashs strongest pokemon that does not mean that he is almost unable to beat. A strong pokemon with a type advantage could beat him. Palpitoad is a strong pokemon with type advantage. But many of you behaves like Charizard is almost unbeatable. He is not.
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    The only way Palpitoad could beat Charizard is if Charizard stood there and took Multiple Hydro pumps to the face. Gary's Blastoise had Type advantage, as did his Golem. How'd that work out for them again?

    Of course he isn't unbeatable, since he's been beaten. I can see him losing to the likes of Cynthia's pokemon, or many Elite 4 pokemon that we have seen, even Paul's Torterra with that controllable stone edge. But he is Ash's strongest pokemon, and he would eat Palpitoad for a midday snack.

    Darkrai would be a much tougher opponent of course, but like its been said, if Sceptile can do it, so can Charizard. I still would have gone with Infernape though

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    I highly doubt it, the anime always likes making legendaries nigh-invulnerable to virtually everything whenever non-legendaries attack them (unless they're the cute, tiny, innocent-looking ones like Celebi or Victini, because of the whole "rule of cute" thing). I doubt even Ash's Charizard would even put a scratch on Darkrai, let alone a hard hit.
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    I highly doubt it, the anime always likes making legendaries nigh-invulnerable to virtually everything whenever non-legendaries attack them (unless they're the cute, tiny, innocent-looking ones like Celebi or Victini, because of the whole "rule of cute" thing). I doubt even Ash's Charizard would even put a scratch on Darkrai, let alone a hard hit.
    Except Jukain practically dished out the bulk the damage against Takuto's Darkrai and won. It's not hard to believe Lizardon would manage to do the same.

    As for Latios, Jukain was worn-out from the Darkrai fight and Ohsubame didn't really do much to it - Pikachu was responsible for KOing it (along with itself). Lizardon can totally take it on.

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    Default Re: Could Ash's Charizard or Infernape beat Tobias's Latios or Darkrai?

    Infernape would win against Darkrai, if not tie with it. It's got a major type advantage, and it's pretty strong. It's got the moveset for attacking AND dodging. Infernape has a pretty good chance.

    As for Charizard... I don't know, though I'd definitely like to see him go up against Latios XDD

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    I think that both Charizard and Infernape would have been able to take down Darkrai. Infernape might even have an easier time due to having a type advantage and moving around faster on the ground. It was too worn out from its battle against Paul, so I'm not surprised that it wasn't used. Since Sceptile was able to defeat Darkrai, although in pretty anticlimactic way in my opinion, I think that Charizard could defeat it too. I don't think that Infernape could defeat Latios, although it might be able to cause a bit of damage, but Charizard could at least give it a good run, if not defeat it too.
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    Default Re: Could Ash's Charizard or Infernape beat Tobias's Latios or Darkrai?

    If heracross and sceptile had their positions reversed then heracross could easily have ended the battle and could probably even heavily damage latios as well. But then they had to glorify the already overglorified starter again.... point being if Heracross can do it, so can they.

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    Default Re: Could Ash's Charizard or Infernape beat Tobias's Latios or Darkrai?

    It doesn't matter if Tobias had a Mewtwo and a Ho-oh or a Pichu and a Azurril. If they wanted Ash to lose with whatever pokemon he had at the time then he would have lost. Especially with him having two fire types at once. Which is stupid in my view.
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    If charizard goes mega he'd eat darkrai. Tbh it wasnt a proper fight and purely a fabrication of invincible oponent to justify beating Ashs best team.

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    Yes, let's not lose sight of the fact that Ash could've beat Darkrai, Mewtwo, Articuno, and Rayquaza with a Kakuna if the writers really wanted to troll us. Actually, I'd be REALLY interested in seeing how they'd pull that off.

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    Potentially, yes.

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