Thread: BW92: Ash, Iris, and Shootie! The Last Battle!!

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Satoshi_Pikachu

Poor Satoshi, he hasn't been able to win anything important in Isshu.

Yeah, 'cause the Gym Battles were totally not important or anything, they were just some random battles that have absolutely no influence on his goal of getting to compete in the Unova League. :p

If anything, the Gym Battles are way more important than any tournament that the gang has participated in, and this is due to the fact that the Gym Battles actually help Ash advancing further in his goal, while these tournaments will grant you nothing more than the ''honor'' of winning and some fancy items that the characters never uses.

I beg to differ. This tournament's prize is an official battle against Alder! What could be more honourable?

Originally Posted by Human

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Satoshi_Pikachu

Poor Satoshi, he hasn't been able to win anything important in Isshu.

Yeah, 'cause the Gym Battles were totally not important or anything, they were just some random battles that have absolutely no influence on his goal of getting to compete in the Unova League. :p

If anything, the Gym Battles are way more important than any tournament that the gang has participated in, and this is due to the fact that the Gym Battles actually help Ash advancing further in his goal, while these tournaments will grant you nothing more than the ''honor'' of winning and some fancy items that the characters never uses.

I beg to differ. This tournament's prize is an official battle against Alder! What could be more honourable?

That still does not change the fact that the prize really won't help them in advancing further in their journey. Battling Alder is nice, yes, but I still wouldn't consider that to be important. Ash's Gym Battles are far more important.

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Human

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Satoshi_Pikachu

Poor Satoshi, he hasn't been able to win anything important in Isshu.

Yeah, 'cause the Gym Battles were totally not important or anything, they were just some random battles that have absolutely no influence on his goal of getting to compete in the Unova League. :p

If anything, the Gym Battles are way more important than any tournament that the gang has participated in, and this is due to the fact that the Gym Battles actually help Ash advancing further in his goal, while these tournaments will grant you nothing more than the ''honor'' of winning and some fancy items that the characters never uses.

I beg to differ. This tournament's prize is an official battle against Alder! What could be more honourable?

That still does not change the fact that the prize really won't help them in advancing further in their journey. Battling Alder is nice, yes, but I still wouldn't consider that to be important. Ash's Gym Battles are far more important.

One of the main requirements needed to be considered to be a Pokemon Master is to beat a Champion. If Ash beat him, he'd succeed. Ash can get as many Gym Badges as he wants and still not be considered to be one. Beating a Champion in an official battle? HECK YEAH!

Originally Posted by Human

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Human

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Satoshi_Pikachu

Poor Satoshi, he hasn't been able to win anything important in Isshu.

Yeah, 'cause the Gym Battles were totally not important or anything, they were just some random battles that have absolutely no influence on his goal of getting to compete in the Unova League. :p

If anything, the Gym Battles are way more important than any tournament that the gang has participated in, and this is due to the fact that the Gym Battles actually help Ash advancing further in his goal, while these tournaments will grant you nothing more than the ''honor'' of winning and some fancy items that the characters never uses.

I beg to differ. This tournament's prize is an official battle against Alder! What could be more honourable?

That still does not change the fact that the prize really won't help them in advancing further in their journey. Battling Alder is nice, yes, but I still wouldn't consider that to be important. Ash's Gym Battles are far more important.

One of the main requirements needed to be considered to be a Pokemon Master is to beat a Champion. If Ash beat him, he'd succeed. Ash can get as many Gym Badges as he wants and still not be considered to be one. Beating a Champion in an official battle? HECK YEAH!

Ruben, seriously... Even if Ash was to beat Alder, he surely wouldn't become a Champion. I mean, that way he would've practically skipped the whole Unova League and Champion League, just like that, and winning both of those tournaments are vital for becoming a Champion of the region. Not to mention that we all know that Ash won't win, at least not if Alder is battling seriously, and not the way he did the last time.

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Human

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Human

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Originally Posted by Satoshi_Pikachu

Poor Satoshi, he hasn't been able to win anything important in Isshu.

Yeah, 'cause the Gym Battles were totally not important or anything, they were just some random battles that have absolutely no influence on his goal of getting to compete in the Unova League. :p

If anything, the Gym Battles are way more important than any tournament that the gang has participated in, and this is due to the fact that the Gym Battles actually help Ash advancing further in his goal, while these tournaments will grant you nothing more than the ''honor'' of winning and some fancy items that the characters never uses.

I beg to differ. This tournament's prize is an official battle against Alder! What could be more honourable?

That still does not change the fact that the prize really won't help them in advancing further in their journey. Battling Alder is nice, yes, but I still wouldn't consider that to be important. Ash's Gym Battles are far more important.

One of the main requirements needed to be considered to be a Pokemon Master is to beat a Champion. If Ash beat him, he'd succeed. Ash can get as many Gym Badges as he wants and still not be considered to be one. Beating a Champion in an official battle? HECK YEAH!

Ruben, seriously... Even if Ash was to beat Alder, he surely wouldn't become a Champion. I mean, that way he would've practically skipped the whole Unova League and Champion League, just like that, and winning both of those tournaments are vital for becoming a Champion of the region. Not to mention that we all know that Ash won't win, at least not if Alder is battling seriously, and not the way he did the last time.

I never said that beating Alder in this tournament would make Ash the new Champion of Unova. This battle is probably going to be a 1 vs. 1, and we all know that that's not a good deciding factor of one's strength and versatility. What I said was that it was one of the main requirements. If you still not think that it's not important, then surely we can agree on that the prize for winning this tournament is better than the previous two tournament's prizes?

Battling a Champion is valuable experience and serves a good indicator of your strength at that point in time (Sato saying to Kikuno "I just want to see how much I can do against you" back in DP comes to mind). It's definitely more useful than some feather or drinks are which we never really saw take an effect or be used.

Originally Posted by Human

I never said that beating Alder in this tournament would make Ash the new Champion of Unova.

Exactly, which means that it'll serve no other purpose than determining your current strength. It might be a life-time chance for a Trainer to battle a Champion, but it really won't serve the same level of importance as winning Gym Badges, where you'll actually advance further in your quest of competing in League for each badge you win.

What I said was that it was one of the main requirements.

Yes, but if that battle won't be part of the Champion League, is the importance of winning really the same? No, it isn't.

If you still not think that it's not important, then surely we can agree on that the prize for winning this tournament is better than the previous two tournament's prizes?

I still do not think that it's as important as gaining Gym Badges, but surely it is a way better prize than the Vitamin Drinks and the Feathers, but I can't recall saying that it wasn't.

I don't support Trip winning Junior cup for some lame backstory!
Because Ash & Kanto will humiliate again !
I even prefer a complete cotd winning this rather then Trip
Unless , Ash manage to get the upper hand against Trip in Junior cup but he suddenly recall his pokemon & walk away saying cool line like ''Kid , You need to battle Alder more then I Do !''
But Seriously , Is this even possible ????
By the way
Why Ash & Iris's battle getting so much focus in this episode ?
What about the final & prized Battle ?

Originally Posted by Satoshi_Pikachu

I think Shootie's going to win so they can kind wrap-up his little storyline with Adeku. Plus Satoshi needs someone to beat at the league, and as much as I dislike him, Shootie IS the main rival. Poor Satoshi, he hasn't been able to win anything important in Isshu. But I'm fine either way. I'm just glad Iris is going to lose.

That why , if Ash losing that Junior Cup than writer has to make up for it by making Ash the Unova League victor !
Because , I can't accept Ash leaving Unova without achieving anything important!
By the way , Ash can have someone much better to beat rather a rookie who competing in his very league conference!

Originally Posted by Hurricane Kishore

What about the final & prized Battle ?

All we know about that "final & prized Battle" is that Ash is there. That's all we know about it.

All I can sya is that Trip's Serperior looks awesome in the animation. It reminds me of Drew's Pokemon because of the sparkles.

So Trip semi-final opponent is.....?

Originally Posted by PokeMasterCroatia1997

So Trip semi-final opponent is.....?

Probably Cilan. Both Trip and Ash get their public rematches.

Dent already lost.

Originally Posted by Musashi

Dent already lost.

He advanced in the second round. Do we have confirmation that he lost in that round?

His name would be in the title if he had won.