Thread: BW106: Dageki Appears! Satoshi VS Kenyan!!

I never thought I'd say this, but - way to devalue Iris' achievements. Who just happens to have a fully evolved Dragon type in their team?

iris and dragonite, then kotetsu and hydreigon WHAT THE HELL IS NEXT VIRGIL AND SALAMANCE OR ASH AND GARCHOMP

The Hydreigon belongs to... KOTETSU!? I now take back everything I said about Iris's Dragonite in the past, I mean really, this is obviously an excuse from the writers to make Ash lose the league faster.

Edit: To be honest, having Ash lose to a Hydreigon is at least better than having him lose to an Eevee.

What? The Hydreigon is the kid's? ...Ok, why not? I can't really say this means he'll win, but this is still an insult in another way. Technically, Ash does have a pseudo legend, just not a fully evolved pseudo legend, which means that this guy has done something Ash has not yet achieved, and he's supposed to be dumber than he is. But...I will try to calm down. We still have Virgil. They obviously can't let that go without there being a battle, so I will go out on a limb and say Ash can still win this. Arguably, they treat pseudos like any other powerful pokemon, and it is uncertain how they will do, but they will have to make it difficult in some way. Then again granted how Trip's Serperior was supposed to be this nigh unstoppable force, and yet, we know it ends up being defeated, I honestly don't know what to say about that.

Kotetsu has a Sanzandora, eh? Riolu, Sanzandora, and Daikenki. Kotetsu's got the full package, I never thought he could tame a Sanzandora or own one. I'm happy he does, I mean wow. If we saw how strong a wild Sanzandora was or how strong Shobu's, who doesn't train really, Sanzandora was. Then this one must be off-the-charts strong. The fact that this is Kotetsu's "secret weapon" of all things? He was keeping it under wraps for the Isshu League.

It's not as if Satoshi doesn't have an answer to Sanzandora, Chaobu could always learn a Fighting-type move prior. Waruvile has Dragon Claw and Hahakomori has String Shot. I'd love to see Zuruggu take out Sanzandora with his newly learned Focus Blast if possible, it would be a great throwback to the movie where he Headbutted Carlita's into submission.

Edit:Why are people pressed over Kotetsu having a Sanzandora? I really, really don't see a problem with it. Nor do I understand this obsession with the term Pseudo-legendary, it's a fan-made up term that means shit in-game or in the anime. Kotetsu having it is perfectly justified. Or is it simply because Kotetsu has something that Satoshi doesn't? We don't know how much experience Kotetsu has, but since he knows about Johto I wouldn't be surprised if he has traveled prior to his Isshu Journey.

Originally Posted by Gotpika

Edit:Why are people pressed over Kotetsu having a Sanzandora? I really, really don't see a problem with it. Nor do I understand this obsession with the term Pseudo-legendary, it's a fan-made up term that means shit in-game or in the anime. Kotetsu having it is perfectly justified. Or is it simply because Kotetsu has something that Satoshi doesn't? We don't know how much experience Kotetsu has, but since he knows about Johto I wouldn't be surprised if he has traveled prior to his Isshu Journey.

Fan term or not, pseudo-legendaries are usually powerful. I'm pretty sure that every pseudo we've seen has been very formidable, like Drake's Dragonite or Cynthia's Garchomp. And I doubt Kotetsu actually has that much experience outside of Unova, since he didn't know he needed eight Badges to compete in the League, or to even register.

But I have no problem with Hydreigon as long as they explain how he got it. Calling it a "secret weapon" makes it seem really important. And how would Kotetsu, of all people, have gotten this weapon?

I would LMAO if he incidentally was looking for a certain Dragonite and sent his Hydreigon to fight one some time back. Then the Dragonite flew and he spent lots of time searching for it, hence why he was late to participate the Junior World Tournament.

Uhm, Tetsuya had a pseudo legendary with Metagross back in Hoenn and he didn't say anything about competing in another leage beforehand if I remember correctly. How a league rivals owning a pseudo legendary back then okay and in BW it isn't?

Is it because Kotetsu is a derpy character? He collected 8 badges and knows how to battle once he stimulates his brain by squeezing his brain in a comedic manner, why is it so hard to see that he can develop a close bond with his Pokémon in order to evovle them early? Some Pokémon of the same species evolve earlier than others in the anime anyway ( even in the games there are underleveled evolved Pokémon in the wild).

What interests me is the setup of the battles. 3 VS 3 or 6 VS 6 ? The anime barely uses the 6 VS 6 formula ( not once in BW so far if I'm correct) and the league episodes usually have a few of these to look forward to :/

Where did Virgil go? Did I miss something or what?

Originally Posted by Adyniz

Where did Virgil go? Did I miss something or what?

He's probably battling COTDs for the first two or three rounds.

Originally Posted by TeddiUrsa

Uhm, Tetsuya had a pseudo legendary with Metagross back in Hoenn and he didn't say anything about competing in another leage beforehand if I remember correctly. How a league rivals owning a pseudo legendary back then okay and in BW it isn't?

For me it isn't about pseudo-legendaries, it's about it being counter to one of the very very few plot points that BW has had, the difficulty of raising dragon type Pokemon and what being able to train and tame a powerful dragon means for the ability of a trainer as a whole.

For Ash, it took him months to be able to train Gible enough to master one move, being skilled enough to be able to calm down a Hydreigon was enough for Iris to be seen as worthy of being a Gym leader, but Kotetsu has a fully evolved dragon type as seemingly his fourth choice Pokemon.

If Ash wins here, it doesn't matter that Kotetsu had it, but if a dragon Pokemon with someone who hasn't been aiming to be a Dragon Master in a series with that as a specific focus, is what Ash loses the league to, it's just terrible writing and ruins a whole region's worth of development.

Oh? Kotetsu's got a Hydreigon? That's awesome.

Really, I sincerely doubt that Ash will lose here. He hasn't even battled Virgil yet, who I honestly believe will be the one to take Ash down. So, Hydreigon or not, I still think he's going to lose. I could be wrong, but I really don't think so. I just really hope that this will be a 6 on 6 battle, but it doesn't appear to be that way.... It's going to be cool to see Ash beat a Hydreigon.

Okay the kid got my attention now.

See this is what i'm talking about people. Kotetsu owning a Hydreigon is leagues worse than Iris catching a Dragonite. Especially if said Hydreigon is a supposed secret weapon. In my opinion this is no different than Tyson having Metagross and Tobias having Darkrai, only difference they both are the ones who were introduced only to win the league right before it while Kotetsu is just late on the uptake of being a standard rival for Ash. And yes I agree that Kotetsu given his personality is completely undeserving for owning and using that Hydreigon. And what about Riolu evolving into Lucario or Samurott being Kotetsu's best Pokemon, considering it is likely his starter. So this completely screws over Kotetsu's character developmentally and could potentially turn his character to an unworthy DEM only used to beat Ash in the league this time and even if that isn't the case, the simple fact that Kotetsu has this Hydreigon is still a unnecessary kick in the groin. This is my two cents here.

Is Ash vs Trip a 3 on 3 battle?