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    Default Re: BW104: "Fierce Fighting! Win Out in the Rival Battle!"

    Stephan or Bianca is probably going to be the eliminated rival if there is one. The can't get rid Kotetsu or Virgil because they are too new and Trip had a huge tournament meant to glorify him. However it is possible that are going to eliminate Trip. Now I'm sure plenty of you have heard of this graph. You'll have to click on it I expected it to be bigger



    Using the first star wars movie this graph represents ideal the ideal tension curve a hook followed by peaks and valleys. The relevant part is the hook. I think a Virgil or Kotetsu v Trip fight would be a good hook given Trip's recent Junior Cup win and the fact that Trip regained respect for Alder meaning rival wise he's pretty done. All he needs for his story to be done is to gain respect for Ash and that could be done through Ash beating his vanquisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyvernphlare View Post
    Stephan or Bianca is probably going to be the eliminated rival if there is one. The can't get rid Kotetsu or Virgil because they are too new and Trip had a huge tournament meant to glorify him. However it is possible that are going to eliminate Trip. Now I'm sure plenty of you have heard of this graph. You'll have to click on it I expected it to be bigger



    Using the first star wars movie this graph represents ideal the ideal tension curve a hook followed by peaks and valleys. The relevant part is the hook. I think a Virgil or Kotetsu v Trip fight would be a good hook given Trip's recent Junior Cup win and the fact that Trip regained respect for Alder meaning rival wise he's pretty done. All he needs for his story to be done is to gain respect for Ash and that could be done through Ash beating his vanquisher.
    I wouldn't like it if this were the outcome, i'd rather see Ash beat Trip, even if it is the most predictable, boring, and stale outcome that could possibly happen in regards to Ash's and Trip's rivalry. I would however like it if Ash beats Trip in a full battle almost the same way Tobias beat Ash in the Sinnoh League, with Ash losing at most 2-3 pokemon during thier inevitable battle at the Unova League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L-05308 View Post
    I'm gonna say Bianca will be the one to beat Stephan, I'm not actually looking forward to a rival being sent out in the first round again, poor Nando.
    got top 4 in the GF too, what more do you want? He did very well for a rookie trying to balance out both.

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    This kind of aligns better with a post-League train of thought, but I think it's interesting to look at Ash's current rivals entering the League versus past rivals. Mainly the introduction of Kotetsu and Virgil so close to the commencement of the League. Part of me wonders if one is the typical League rival destined to knock Ash out (Ritchie, Harrison, Tyson, Tobias), and the other is there to replace one of the current rivals in the filler arc rather than just being league fodder in the mold of Morrison & Conway.

    I think Bianca would stay given she has a counterpart in B2/W2 and has a more fleshed out team, and the writers could conceivably stretch out Trip's relevance by avoiding his match with Ash ala Gary in Kanto, but what excuse do they really have with keeping Stephan? He has had plenty of opportunities to showcase a more developed team, but we've only seen him with Blitzle/Zebstrika & Sawk, and he's gotten his regional glory with the Clubsplosion. I could see Stephan getting knocked out early (this episode) and someone like Virgil or Kotetsu taking his place in a filler saga.
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    Default Re: BW104: "Fierce Fighting! Win Out in the Rival Battle!"

    lets see... Ash vs Kotetsu, Trip, Bianca, or Stephan. ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. well ash vs kotetsu is probliy going to be more painful than the battle with Marlon.... Trip, meh the most excitng of the bunch, Bianca, Ummmm.........., Stephan, PRONONCE MY NAME RIGHT!. I wonder if maybe since Kotetsu is of Supporter COTD status, i am curios if ash's "new rival" will appere. just like harriosn did way back when in the Johto leauge

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    Default Re: BW104: "Fierce Fighting! Win Out in the Rival Battle!"

    Trip vs Bianca trip gets revenge for donamite.
    kotetsu vs Stephan sawk gets pent by riolu.

    Hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Buizel View Post
    Hopefully ash uses infernape in this battle :P
    Satoshi has an entire set of reserves at Araragi's to choose from, I am 99.9% certain that he will only be rotating those and none of the one he keeps at Okido's.
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    Default Re: BW104: "Fierce Fighting! Win Out in the Rival Battle!"

    While seeing Ash use his older Pokemon sounds appealing in a way, I really doubt that's going to happen. If he did, that would make the decision for Ash to capture so many Unova Pokemon even more questionable. Not to mention this is the only League where his Unova Pokemon will have the best amount of screentime before being left either at Professor Juniper's or transferred for Professor Oak's place for a new team, so they might as well use them now while they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatcherMark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Buizel View Post
    Hopefully ash uses infernape in this battle :P
    Satoshi has an entire set of reserves at Araragi's to choose from, I am 99.9% certain that he will only be rotating those and none of the one he keeps at Okido's.
    Oh god, please use the english names, and 99.9% certain? your quite sure of yourself with no proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Buizel View Post

    Oh god, please use the english names
    The name linking exists to help people understand names in other languages.

    "Playing around?" Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazov View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Buizel View Post

    Oh god, please use the english names
    The name linking exists to help people understand names in other languages.
    It's so confusing because i have to research the names then comment back :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Buizel View Post
    It's so confusing because i have to research the names then comment back :(
    If a person is more comfortable using different but equally valid names, they don't have to change just because it inconveniences you slightly. And usually, you can just hover over or click the linked words to see what the person is referring to.

    But if you want to continue to discuss this, my PM box is always open. No reason for us derail the thread.
    Last edited by Karamazov; 25th October 2012 at 12:41 AM.

    "Playing around?" Wrong.

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    Default Re: BW104: "Fierce Fighting! Win Out in the Rival Battle!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazov View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Buizel View Post
    It's so confusing because i have to research the names then comment back :(
    If a person is more comfortable using different but equally valid names, they don't have to change just because it inconveniences you slightly. And usually, you can just hover over or click the linked words to see what the person is referring to.

    But if you want to continue to discuss this, my PM box is always open. No reason for us derail the thread.
    Nawhh it's all gewd, just find it weird how people still cling into the japanese names..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaotic Buizel View Post
    Nawhh it's all gewd, just find it weird how people still cling into the japanese names..
    That's their decision entirely. Now please drop the subject.

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    Default Re: BW104: "Fierce Fighting! Win Out in the Rival Battle!"

    From TV Tokyo:


    The second part of Ash VS Shooty battle, which starts in BW103.
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