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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

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    Dragonite has lost so much height throughout the process of the anime!! Go back to ep13, it was this massive creature, bigger than a lighthouse. Obviously its had multiple appearances since, but looking at the above picture, its only just bigger than Iris. Unrealistic...

    The fight between Mamoswine and dragonite looks intense, hopefully Dawn will give a good fight even though she loses..
    That was an unusual Dragonite, I believe. Huger than normal, I believe.
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    MAMOSWINE IS STANDING UP TO DRAGONITE?!?!

    So.... They downgraded Georgia just so Dawn's Mamoswine could "look great" damaging the Dragonite. That's just..... TERRIBLE.
    They're practically spitting us Georgia fans right in the face.

    Why the fuck is Mamoswine proving to be such a formidable opponent when Georgia's Beartic was defeated by just one attack? Is this a joke or what?

    I'm filled with so much anger right now. Ugh.

    The battle is looking good, I admit it, but the fact that Mamoswine is making Dragonite struggle is bothering me. It would be okay if Georgia would be able to do so too, but she didn't. This is just awful.

    Hey, Dawn's hair seems to be longer than usual in that ''VS. screen'', but I dunno. And OMG... is it just me or was Iris looking a lot like Fantina when she was doing that ''OOOOOOH NOOOOOOO''-pose? If I remember correctly she was also doing something like that whenever Ash countered her in their battle.
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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Human View Post
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    MAMOSWINE IS STANDING UP TO DRAGONITE?!?!

    So.... They downgraded Georgia just so Dawn's Mamoswine could "look great" damaging the Dragonite. That's just..... TERRIBLE.
    They're practically spitting us Georgia fans right in the face.

    Why the fuck is Mamoswine proving to be such a formidable opponent when Georgia's Beartic was defeated by just one attack? Is this a joke or what?

    I'm filled with so much anger right now. Ugh.

    The battle is looking good, I admit it, but the fact that Mamoswine is making Dragonite struggle is bothering me. It would be okay if Georgia would be able to do so too, but she didn't. This is just awful.

    Hey, Dawn's hair seems to be longer than usual in that ''VS. screen'', but I dunno. And OMG... is it just me or was Iris looking a lot like Fantina when she was doing that ''OOOOOOH NOOOOOOO''-pose? If I remember correctly she was also doing something like that whenever Ash countered her in their battle.
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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiplet View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Human View Post
    Pokémon Best Wishes Season 2 Episode 7 Preview - YouTube

    MAMOSWINE IS STANDING UP TO DRAGONITE?!?!

    So.... They downgraded Georgia just so Dawn's Mamoswine could "look great" damaging the Dragonite. That's just..... TERRIBLE.
    They're practically spitting us Georgia fans right in the face.

    Why the fuck is Mamoswine proving to be such a formidable opponent when Georgia's Beartic was defeated by just one attack? Is this a joke or what?

    I'm filled with so much anger right now. Ugh.

    The battle is looking good, I admit it, but the fact that Mamoswine is making Dragonite struggle is bothering me. It would be okay if Georgia would be able to do so too, but she didn't. This is just awful.

    Hey, Dawn's hair seems to be longer than usual in that ''VS. screen'', but I dunno. And OMG... is it just me or was Iris looking a lot like Fantina when she was doing that ''OOOOOOH NOOOOOOO''-pose? If I remember correctly she was also doing something like that whenever Ash countered her in their battle.
    I'm still peeved that Iris at all made it past this round with that un controlled Dragonite >>
    On top of all things, shes happy about the way shes won and seems to be really rooting for herself the next episode wow.
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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    So....

    An Ice Beam and Blizzard attack doesn't faze Dragonite despite the huge advantage, yet a Take Down sends it flying.

    Makes sense to me...

    Oh well, the battle looks nice. Great to have Mamoswine kicking butt again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashfangirl22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiplet View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Human View Post
    Pokémon Best Wishes Season 2 Episode 7 Preview - YouTube

    MAMOSWINE IS STANDING UP TO DRAGONITE?!?!

    So.... They downgraded Georgia just so Dawn's Mamoswine could "look great" damaging the Dragonite. That's just..... TERRIBLE.
    They're practically spitting us Georgia fans right in the face.

    Why the fuck is Mamoswine proving to be such a formidable opponent when Georgia's Beartic was defeated by just one attack? Is this a joke or what?

    I'm filled with so much anger right now. Ugh.

    The battle is looking good, I admit it, but the fact that Mamoswine is making Dragonite struggle is bothering me. It would be okay if Georgia would be able to do so too, but she didn't. This is just awful.

    Hey, Dawn's hair seems to be longer than usual in that ''VS. screen'', but I dunno. And OMG... is it just me or was Iris looking a lot like Fantina when she was doing that ''OOOOOOH NOOOOOOO''-pose? If I remember correctly she was also doing something like that whenever Ash countered her in their battle.
    I'm still peeved that Iris at all made it past this round with that un controlled Dragonite >>
    On top of all things, shes happy about the way shes won and seems to be really rooting for herself the next episode wow.
    She looks happy that she's advancing but still unhappy about how things turned out.

    As for Mamoswine I could see Dawn using Contest battle style moves which give Dragonite a hard time seeing as it's not a straight forward power fight like it's use to.

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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    Even if the previous episode turned out to be a massive ball of dissapointment, I am actually quite hyped for this battle. Iris finally getting an actual challange, Mammoo getting a good battle, Kairyu not one-shotting a Pokémon, Iris finally accomplishing something since Imperial Wrath that will make Langley proud, great animation, good interactions between two girls, this episode has a lot of good things going for it. I thought this episode will turn out to be crap and previous episode to be below average and bland, but these episodes completely went opposite directions I expected them to go. Similiarly, the episode after this seems to be going to exceed my expectations. Junior Cup is turning out to be pretty good, well, the later episodes that is. It's such a shame that Shooty, Dent and Satoshi's battles will probably be even shorter than previous episode's still shots. Another shame that is even this episode has stock commands, and I know very well that some of the shots used in this episode, specifacally Dragon Dive will be used for rest of the series. Thank God, this is a mainly physical battle, which reduces chances of shots being reused later, which in turn reduces the chances of Mammoo having future battles, but that is pretty much obvious regardless.

    I really wished Mammoo upgraded Take Down with Return though. I do hope he gets Stone Edge though and has an inexplicable psychic connection to his rocks. Tunbear got Doryuz' and Ringuma's Focus Miss, so why shouldn't Mammoo get Gabite and Dodaitose's pseudo-signature move :'D?
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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiplet View Post
    They're practically spitting us Georgia fans right in the face.

    Why the fuck is Mamoswine proving to be such a formidable opponent when Georgia's Beartic was defeated by just one attack? Is this a joke or what?
    I really cannot disagree enough with this. I think we're all in agreement that Iris v Langley was pure and utter bullshit, but that's just it, that match was bullshit, the damage was done there. Saying that subsequent battles should be just as bullshitty as the previous battle to justify the previous battle being bullshitty when it has no justification on account of being bullshit is kinda twisted. Point is: the argument should be that Iris vs Langley should have been better written, not that this battle should be shoddily written as to make canon previous shoddy writing.

    That being said, I think this battle will be bullshit anyway, though not because Hikari. First of all, Iris shouldn't be in the second round to begin with and shouldn't even come close to winning with a disobedient Pokémon she's never trained or worked with before. Second, I'm calling Kairyu being put under pressure and finally realizing that Iris, the pure radiant saint genius prodigy special snowflake who can do no wrong he willingly chose to follow only to disobey her in a contrived and hollow plot, is his only hope of salvation as only she can truly let him win with the Dragon Master skills she already mastered. Another undeserved win and undue glorification for Iris that not only kills her story but really kills other characters' stories and stops them dead in their tracks. Once again, there's nothing that really challenges Iris as a character, nothing that really makes her change, because the problem seems to be solved by having Iris be the answer and to have been right all along, while Kairyu was wrong. I think the matchup between Manmoo and Kairyu is interesting because it just highlights how the former's plot was not only much better handled than the latter, but just how more compelling the story was and how much more deserved and earned the resolution was. What's the point in Kairyu disobeying Iris if it's to end in two episodes, have no consequences and end by Kairyu realizing how great Iris.

    One thing I'm extremely disappointed about the preview and the title is that it heavily implies one thing: Hikari not using contest style battling, but just spouting attacks and trying to overpower the Kairyu she just saw overpower a Tsunbear and resist countless super effective attacks. It's downgrading her character heavily cause she was always portrayed as being much smarter than this and it's not her style. It's been established as not being her style. She's supposed to be there to prepare herself for contests and in her battles doesn't use contest style tactics... it's kinda sickening how much they're throwing Hikari under the bus to give some more undeserved achievements to Iris. The bottom of the Iris bus is red with blood with how many characters were thrown under there.
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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    As much as it sucks that Dawn chose Mamoswine while all of her other Pokemon are being ignored during this arc, her choice makes the most logical sense. She's doing what any of us would do in the same situation. With how the writers made Dragonite out to be, it's the only one that stands a chance. It's an Ice-type and also Ground which would negate the ThunderPunch that was used to knock out Georgia's Beartic. I don't put the blame on Dawn at all but Iris for being cheap and only using Dragonite instead of another Pokemon.

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    New information, and I think it has a typo in it.


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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    Quote Originally Posted by G50 View Post
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    New information, and I think it has a typo in it.
    Looks like it'll be Cilan's Crustle VS Shooty's Jalorda.

    Full preview. It's embedded on the site, so I couldn't link it from the official site.
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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    is that a new move by Mamoswine?


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    Iris's Dragonite is like the Samuel L Jackson of pokemon.

    Even when he's not yelling, he's yelling.

    I'm leaning towards Contest move, G50.

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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

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    is that a new move by Mamoswine?
    Looks like Ice Fang.

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    Default Re: BW091: Power Battle! Iris vs. Hikari!

    It's either Ice Fang, or a new contest-style Ice Shard (since she commands it to use Koori no Tsubute in the preview).
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