THE ONLY THING IMLIKED ABOUT Brock IN DP WAS Croagunk OR MY NICKNAME FOR HIM IS Toxic Mouth JABBING Brock WAS THE BEST IT THINK AND BOTH OF THEIR INTERACTIONS IN THE FIRST DP SEASON WAS GREAT I THINK.
I am trying to stay on Topic and not get into trouble so Sorry everyone and I think BW WAS TRYING SOMETHING NEW MAYBE SO that it could get new Fans to like the Show maybe but it really did not work so well here.
Ash shouldn't have been regressed to the extreme he has been. Sure, he's always been reset a bit since Hoenn began, but he still retained most of his knowledge from the prior regions. They should've had him retain most of his skill and knowledge or intelligence from DP, but retain his more childish, emotional, and immature persona of the OS if they wanted to somewhat refresh him. It would've been the best of both worlds, IMHO.
Also, Team Rocket shouldn't have been made serious if they weren't able to give them more screen time, and wouldn't retain their personality. The idea of making them serious itself, however, was quite brilliant on the BW writers when you think about it for a while. They may have finally gained Giovanni's respect and were taking orders from him directly, essentially making the reality realizing their dreams more reachable. Shame they sadly shifted personalities again because it made the whole feeling of TRio lose its steam and sadly they just don't feel the same as the lovable goofballs they once were as much anymore.
I always found it funny how some people thought DP series was really great, when in reality it was poorly handled as a entire arc, Brock's character was at it's peak during the Kanto/Johto series arcs, in Hoenn Brock was okay but not that great, but in the Sinnoh series they pretty much ruin the characters mainly Brock because he became a boring dull character without any personality, but atleast the BW series reset Ash's character back to having a great personality unlike that terrible personality that Ash had in the DP series.
Last edited by Pikacuh; 14th July 2013 at 08:42 PM.
That is totally fine with Me I think
To answer the OP's question, I say no. The idea that the writers would spend an entire series writing just to plan out the series after that is rather silly and impractical. The writers just chose to do things directly in BW, in terms of characters, battles, and plots. And that's all I'm going to say on this front because anything else would be off-topic.
Pikachu) was dropped in favor of a new, proactive main character, Ash left his team (sans Pikachu) at Oak's Lab right from the start for the first time and Ash and Pikachu traveled somewhere new alone for the first time. The writers even made it seem like Brock was leaving (as in, a total replacement of Ash's friends) even though all that came out of it was that one side story with his mother. Also, Ash was shown to be in a mentor-esque position for the first time, showing some change in his character.
Team Rocket was pretty much the same, but everything else seems to point towards the writers wanting to start things anew with AG (and that sentiment echoes from the same thing occurring in Ruby & Sapphire)
Kanto's Route 23 doesn't exist in the Johto games!
My ideas for a more game-faithful Best Wishes! series.
The Jewel Party
It was no more of testing ground than OS, AG and DP generations were. Only difference is higher tendency of breaking patterns writers established consistently in past(such as removal of second quest, Brock being gone, Ash catching dark type, main protagonist getting fully evolved pokemon right of the bat etc) which isn't that much surprising considering how innovations and new ideas are required in longer run to break predictability and introduce something exciting, unexpected which would attract viewers toward anime.
Unfortunately most of ideas while noble, having interesting premise behind themselves were executed poorly due to lack of writer experience and possible quarrels happening between staff.
Initially i welcomed new features like Don George battle clubs, everyone having their rivals, Ash rotating pokemon etc, but poor execution and shoddy writing is what took away from genuine appeal of this series and potential to be truly fantastic arc., Needless to say very scarce continuity pretending like history, previous Ash travels and companions never existed in first BW half and inconsistent, forced development of main cast were series big minus taking away from credibility of this show reflecting very badly on protagonist growth and storyline which is supposed to be treated like consistent plot which builds on itself.
So in that sense writers tried to implement something new, there is no denying that. But they should had put more effort in their product and provide plausible background behind some things instead of changing things just for the sake of being changed.
In DP Brock may have been neglected,but if there is one thing writers did right was fact how Sinnoh fleshed out Brocks character more in aspect of being breeder than other series did being given finally pokemon egg to display his true knowledge and skills raising it to healthy and powerful Chansey participating in several competitions. His skills were often recognized among other characters and he showed plenty of character when having chance to shine still being goofy, eccentric liking to seduce other girls, wise and mature looking after Ash and Dawn helping them to train or prepare for battles etc.
Main issue was lack of focus and opportunity to display consistently his qualities and virtues which backfired negatively on his activity and interactions with main cast having weak connection between themselves. But that's more writer , rather than character guilt.
Also i didn't found Ash boring in DP,. He was full of personality there still being naive, stubborn, caring for pokemon etc but he also displayed consistently maturity and growth he went through as character being more confident, open minded and firm in his own beliefs he firmed about pokemon as noticed in dispute going with Paul.
Something i liked personally.
That said only thing which would had made AG saga better for me is that Misty stayed as second girl in main cast allowing for new unexplored dynamic and i find it was shame to replace someone who had lot of potential left to be done more being very enjoyable character. However that aside its my second favorite series.
I was actually trying to say what could've improved BW for those fans somewhat to make it more tolerable, but this is the first series since Hoenn/First Portion of AG that I've actually been enjoying. XD.
Last edited by Pokémon Master Ash; 15th July 2013 at 06:59 AM.
Ash had enough personality to be a good battler. I am content with that. I don't care much for his childish antics, which he was shown to grow out of in a progressive manner for 650 episodes.
Ever read an Ikari+Pearlshipping fic set in an AU?
Road to be a Pokemon Master <---Slightly Popular Tournament Fic featuring Ash.
Beyond Truths and Ideals<--Featuring a clash between Ash, N, Team Rocket,Team Plasma and much more.
50 Shippings to Boot With<--Mega Project to write 50 One-shots for 50 different Shippings.
AG series was okay to a certain point, but it wasn't all that great or well written.
The BW series is well like by fans and the animation has been greatly improved.
I believe Best Wishes started something like late 2010 or early 2011. Between then and 2013, you basically have a whole "generation" of kids, most of whom have entered and then left the "target audience" for Pokémon and have moved on, not that they obviously aren't older kids and people who follow Pokémon as well.
As someone already said, its kind of silly to think they would basically treat a whole major section of the show's long history as a mere "test" to improve things for the next series.
With any long running series, when the writers are planning new seasons, they always consider what was well and poorly received about earlier series and bring in new ideas as well, aside from the fact that this series is reasonably formulaic in its overall arcs, even if individual episodes can vary significantly.
Considering that the creative team and staff most likely wouldn't receive notice about X/Y that far in advance, like when the series started, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would consider it a test for XY. It did bring new ideas to the table and tested them out, but that's pretty much the case for every series, so BW isn't any special in that regard. They certainly wouldn't make BW only to figure out what works for the next series. They hopefully learn from what did and didn't work with one series as they plan out the next one, but that still doesn't make it any more of a test than the other series were.
BW is not a complete test bed. Initially, I thought it was anti-DP.
New female lead has nothing to do with Contests or player characters
Brock is replaced for the very first time
Small gaps between Gyms
TR doesn't appear in any episode, and it is not a Golden Poop Squad
Plasma appears in a small chunk of episodes, all together, instead of Galactic which was spread around.
If XY becomes anti-BW, it will be quite close to DP, which is good :))