Thread: BW 108: Isshu League Conclusion! Lucario VS Pikachu!!

Originally Posted by Silktree

Originally Posted by Ash's Battle Coach

This really just sums up best wishes in a nutshell for me. Everyone only getting one battle save for Pikachu, worst rivalry conclusion ever, 6 episode league with a freaking filler about Axew in the middle, 2 skipped/rushed battles, and Ash only making the top 8, which to me he completely deserves.

One of them isn't going to battle at all. I'm guessing it will be Scraggy since it got five seconds of battle screentime in the last episode...

Well yea, I was counting Scraggy in that 5 second battle lol. So so pathetic. And we didn't even get to see if he had mastered focus blast. seriously writers, what the actual fuck

What was the point of introducing Virgil if ash never even faces him? Either that or he will beat ash in a 6v6 in less than one episode.

Also LOL at those who actualy thought ash would win.

Originally Posted by Ash's Battle Coach

Well yea, I was counting Scraggy in that 5 second battle lol. So so pathetic. And we didn't even get to see if he had mastered focus blast. seriously writers, what the actual fuck

We saw Scraggy master Focus Blast during the initial parts of BW094, although Scraggy had greater control over the technique even further back during BW088. It didn't really matter because Scraggy didn't use that move in this battle.

Originally Posted by pokemonsquared

What was the point of introducing Virgil if ash never even faces him?

Virgil and his Eeveelutions were introduced solely as promotion tools for the B2W2 Eevee Cup, as well as all that Eevee-based merchandise that will be released in the coming weeks.

Sometimes, characters are just created in the show for marketing purposes.

It could still be like this: The whole Lucario VS Pikachu battle takes place in the first 5 minutes of the episode, after that Satoshi looses to Virgil in the second half/rest of the episode. Misleading episode titles are pretty common in Pokémon after all. Crecelia vs. Darkrai!, anyone?

Originally Posted by Ampharos King

Originally Posted by Ash's Battle Coach

Well yea, I was counting Scraggy in that 5 second battle lol. So so pathetic. And we didn't even get to see if he had mastered focus blast. seriously writers, what the actual fuck

We saw Scraggy master Focus Blast during the initial parts of BW094, although Scraggy had greater control over the technique even further back during BW088. It didn't really matter because Scraggy didn't use that move in this battle.

Yea but surely the whole point of him mastering it was so you know, we could see him use it in the league lol.

Originally Posted by Robo-Floatzel

Originally Posted by santiagus

Originally Posted by aloasa

quarterfinals AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

Yeah its like Spain Football team. Oh wait this was 4 years ago
Back on topic I must say this is unbereable why not cancelling the league and leave it after N saga seriously this is worst league ever (The best for me its Sinoh and Johto).Even the magazine thought ash was going to win. EVEN THE MAGAZINE

I agree with you, this is just an utter embarassment of a league, only Natural Harmonia Gropius can save us now.
Like I said earlier, this is the Maylene Gym battle, but in reverse, and at the league.

You're right on that, in fact if it wasn't for the fact that N will appear i would ragequit the anime already

Originally Posted by aloasa

You're right on that, in fact if it wasn't for the fact that N will appear i would ragequit the anime already

N does not have so much influence to me, but he is definately an interesting character.
The main reason that kept me to the show is that I am waiting for Snivy's background story.

I am thinking about Gen 6 now, I'll watch the first 10 episode, look through the Pokedex. If there is no Pokemon with interesting characteristic or the overall design is worse than Gen 5, I'll quit the Anime completely.

Originally Posted by Robo-Floatzel

Lucario vs. Pikachu, that says it all everyone, this battle is the Maylene Gym battle from DP in reverse, which also means that Ash isn't going to face Virgil and his Eevee army at all, but losing to a Lucario is just as bad as losing to an Eevee, because both are two of the most overrated Pokemon in the fandom.

Originally Posted by Chiplet

...What

So, in other words, Ash loses to Kotetsu? Or does he beat Kotetsu and then loses to Virgil at the end...?

This is really shitty. We'll only get to see Ash battle three real battles, with one of them being a 1v1 at that.

I agree with you, almost every tournament has been a 1 on 1 tournament, I personally find it an excuse for the writers to not give Trip an actuall team, but have his only Pokemon seen be an overpowered garden hose that he passes off as a "Serperior". It's like it's illegal to have 6 on 6 tournament battles in Unova.

Originally Posted by santiagus

Originally Posted by aloasa

quarterfinals AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

Yeah its like Spain Football team. Oh wait this was 4 years ago
Back on topic I must say this is unbereable why not cancelling the league and leave it after N saga seriously this is worst league ever (The best for me its Sinoh and Johto).

Even the magazine thought ash was going to win.
EVEN THE MAGAZINE

I agree with you, this is just an utter embarassment of a league, only Natural Harmonia Gropius can save us now.

Originally Posted by Mareepy

WORST NEWS ever!
I couldn't believe Ash lose the league like that, its pretty bad written for me.
Ash has fought any of those Pokemon already, and he did beat Maylene's Lucario, and losing to Kotetsu's Lucario kinda means that his skill has indeed dropped since the start of BW. (Or it is commonly called as character reset)

We lets see how they handle N Plasma Dan and the Return of Team Rocket
Like I said earlier, this is the Maylene Gym battle, but in reverse, and at the league.

We lets see how they handle N Plasma Dan and the Return of Team Rocket to see if this saga is saved but if they dont know how to carry that someone must think if its logic to make an Anime Series of Gen 6.(Or renew charachters COUGH COUGH).

I really dislike how in BW the happiness based evolutions have occurred mid battle just like a levelling up one (see also Leavanny). The way they showed the flashback of Virgil's Umbreon evolving to help light the way is probably the only example of one being done right in BW.

The differing ways of evolving Pokemon is something that I like being highlighted, but they haven't been focused on very well at all - even the episode dedicated to the Karrablast/Shelmet trade evolution was poorly handled in highlighting its uniqueness, it was just made out to be a plain old trade evolution. If characters are going to be given these Pokemon that evolve in unique ways, they really need to pay attention and make sure that their evolutions are special when they occur.

That said, considering Ash got to the league with a tonne of undeserved Gym victories on the back of mid-battle evolutions, I have negative-20 sympathy for him in this situation.

Relevant,

Originally Posted by Moe

less yay at Kotetsu - if Ash loses to him, it would be like if Richie lost after waiting for Ash. Ash is too nice for his own good.

Originally Posted by TeddiUrsa

It could still be like this: The whole Lucario VS Pikachu battle takes place in the first 5 minutes of the episode, after that Satoshi looses to Virgil in the second half/rest of the episode. Misleading episode titles are pretty common in Pokémon after all. Crecelia vs. Darkrai!, anyone?

Yeah, I'm leaning towards this too.

I'd say that it'd be like May's Kanto Grand Festival entry. She beat Drew in a battle that took up like half of the episode, then afterwards we got to see a 1/2 minute battle between her and Soledad were she was just about to lose. This could be the case here too, with the writers going to the scene where Ash and Virgil only has one Pokémon left each. Even though that'd be kinda sucky too, it'd still be better than having Ash lose to Kotetsu.

OF ALL THE ..... This upcoming Team Plasma arc better be good enough to win an EMMY or Annie award...because if this lucario Is KOTETSU's and Ash loses then i will lose A LOT of what little respect for the anime i already have left... Even though it isnt confirmed that ash will lose to kotetsu i would rather see ash lose to someone such as Virgil or a random leauge COTD. this leauge has be by far the worst in my thoughts so far. And if that lucario is kotetsu's and he beats ash then i will say that Lucario defeated Ash. Not Kotetsu. ugh only time will tell on this episode

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Even though that'd be kinda sucky too, it'd still be better than having Ash lose to Kotetsu.

No, it wouldn't be. We don't need to see Pikachu take down half of Kotetsu's team just so we can get a glimpse of Ash losing to Virgil.

Originally Posted by Silktree

Originally Posted by Chiplet

Even though that'd be kinda sucky too, it'd still be better than having Ash lose to Kotetsu.

No, it wouldn't be. We don't need to see Pikachu take down half of Kotetsu's team just so we can get a glimpse of Ash losing to Virgil.

Agreed. Having Ash lose to Virgil in a 6 v 6 in less than one episode, even if it were only showing their last few pokemon, would be an even more retarded and pathetic way of ending the league than having Ash lose to Kotetsu

Is there any proof that Satoshi loses to Kotetsu? He wins in the magazine scan, which has been accurate so far (to my knowledge). The title could simply mean that the Unova League is nearing its conclusion.

Originally Posted by Ash's Battle Coach

Agreed. Having Ash lose to Virgil in a 6 v 6 in less than one episode, even if it were only showing their last few pokemon, would be an even more retarded and pathetic way of ending the league than having Ash lose to Kotetsu

This is Best Wishes though, "retarded and pathetic" things are this saga's MO.

I mean after all, we had an episode during the league about Axew getting lost AGAIN, and Oshawott dicking around...that was completely and utterly pointless.