Thread: Ash's WORST battles

Basically we're here to discuss some of Ash's worst losses and battles. This includes movies, tournaments, gym battles, etc. From the moment he got Pikachu to after the Unova League and everything in between.

Heck to be honest, it can include battles that he has won! Some of those wins were simply plot driven and nothing more so undeserved victories can count as his worst battles as well.

What battles make you cringe when you go back to watch them or jump into your mind first when you think about Ash losing?

For me one of the worst was Charizard losing to Brandon's Dusclops. At that point in the series, Ash should have known better than to use a Fighting type move of a Ghost type because he had battled Dusclops before against that coordinator Phantom.

Losing in the Indigo League due to a disobedient Charizard was both a fail AND embarrassment.

He may have won this battle, but I still think his performance against Elesa was pretty embarrasing. He focused way too much on types and made some rookie mistakes that almost cost him the battle. When he was sitting down thinking about who to use against Emolga after Snivy lost, I came close to screaming "Use Roggenrola you dumb shit!"

Pikachu vs Tynamo was also pretty dissapointing since Pikachu beat it with a single not very effective move. Some ace that was...

Say no more, the Elesa battle. When I watched it, it felt insulting to me and Ash's intelligence.

There's also the battle against Cameron.

When Ash tried to tackle the two converging Mew/Mewtwo phychic energy beams on New Island. Ouch.

Most of his Kanto league matches. And that Hoenn one with Thunder Armor.

I don't mind the Elesa battle because it was hilarious when Pikachu exploded at Satoshi XD

Satoshi vs Hiroshi. Nothing more to be said.

Ash vs Ritchie annoyed me a lot.

I agree with both sides of the Ash vs Elesa argument and think that Roggenrola should have been used instead.

Ash vs Cameron is right up there for me, sending out Oshawott after Boldore, Ash should have nailed with that battle.

In the same way Ash vs Trip (5v3) annoyed me, in the way that Ash basically let Tepig get nailed, and then Pikachu, who could have beaten Frillish. That could have been a decent battle, only to be ruined by Ash's idiocy.

Charizard vs Dusclops was annoying, although I guess to the writers he was expendable, having beaten an Articuno earlier on.

caterpie vs pidgeotto

Ash vs Trip (all of them)
Ash vs Elesa
Ash vs Cress
Ash vs Tate & Liza
Ash vs Kenny

What could it be?

"Aim for the horn!!!!" or whatever it was.

ASh vs Brock, Misty, Erika (basicly not a battle)
Ash vs Ritchie
Ash vs Morrison (even though he won)
Ash vs Volkner (after so much waiting for a Gym battle, we got this?!)
Ash vs Tobias
Ash vs Trip, BW001 (A Pikachu who tied with a Latios lost to a Snivy... Does that mean that Snivy was able to beat Latios?!)
Ash vs Burgh, Clay, Skyla (mid-battle evos)
Ash vs Elesa
Ash vs Trip, BW092 (Was Serperior THAT faster than a 3-Flame Charged Pignite?!)
Ash vs Trip, BW103-104 (Serperior gets the upper hand, Ash shouts "Pikachu!!!", Pikachu gets encouraged, Pikachu wins!)
Ash vs Cameron

Maybe we should also call Ash vs Whitney, first one and Ash vs Lenora, first one, because in the first case we have an overconfident ASh who beat 2 Pokemon with a weakling Cyndaquil and got curbstomped by a truk Miltank, and in the second case it was obvious from the first second that Ash will lose it.

EDIT: And of course... Aim for the Horn! (Ash vs Blaine, first battle)

The episode where Pikachu and Swellow got "Thunder Armor". That was terrible.

Why do people say that Thunder armor was bad. One if you remember that Swellow as a tallow held on to the eletric attacks and Swellow is known to have the abilty guts as well

Yeah, I like thunder armor too. One of the few times deus ex machina was really cool in the anime.

Well, vs Elesa, vs Lenora and vs Trip (for the necessity to make Ash looks really dumber than ever) in Unova; vs Gardenia (x2 + tag battle) and vs Lyra & Kourry in Sinnoh; vs May + Norman fans (I hate that episode), vs Flannery, vs Brawly, vs Watson (x2) and vs Tropius' guy (league) in Houenn; vs Clair and vs Bugsy (dislike the poor animation) in Johto; vs Danny and vs Lorelei/Prima in OI; and, finally, vs Misty (forgiven thanks to "Totodile duel"), vs Erika (no conclusive battle + I don't like Erika) and vs Sabrina (again, no conclusive battle).