I think they're good. They had unique Pokemon. I hear people complain a lot about all the water routes but I actually liked that and surfing. I played them more than others and even missed Platinum to play RS. Some Pokemon I liked are Lunatone, Sceptile, Milotic, Jirachi, Kyogre. I enjoyed them and still do. I'll admit though they are a bit more challenging than other Pokemon games, I found the Gym leaders and Elite 4 more difficult that others, to this day I still think Hoenn has the hardest gym leaders to beat.