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    Hey All,
    I'm going back old school and playing the games from the earlier Gens and trying to bring them up. I only ever played Blue, so I have no idea which Pokémon would be best for any version after.

    Any suggestions for starters for Ruby? I know there are two story lines from what I heard. One starter better for Ruby and another for Sapphire and another for Emerald?

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    Just play Emerald, it's the superior of the 3 and merges plots of Ruby and Sapphire together. For a starter, pick either Torchic or Mudkip, never choose grass-types as starters, save for few exceptions, they suck. Pure Grass-types have:
    * lots of weaknesses, few resistances, no immunity
    * plain move set
    * bad stat distribution
    * also Sceptile's signature move is Leaf Blade (a physical attack) despite the Pokemon having higher special attack

    For Swampert and Blaziken, Swampert is a great wall/tank while still having a very decent offense, while Blaziken has better offense but is more fragile. But in a battle, Swampert defeats Blaziken, so overall, the best Hoenn starter is Mudkip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elveonora View Post
    Just play Emerald, it's the superior of the 3 and merges plots of Ruby and Sapphire together. For a starter, pick either Torchic or Mudkip, never choose grass-types as starters, save for few exceptions, they suck. Pure Grass-types have:
    * lots of weaknesses, few resistances, no immunity
    * plain move set
    * bad stat distribution
    * also Sceptile's signature move is Leaf Blade (a physical attack) despite the Pokemon having higher special attack

    For Swampert and Blaziken, Swampert is a great wall/tank while still having a very decent offense, while Blaziken has better offense but is more fragile. But in a battle, Swampert defeats Blaziken, so overall, the best Hoenn starter is Mudkip.
    I agree with this. Emerald I always saw as the best Pokemon game of the series. And as far as starters go, you can't go wrong as long as you do not pick Treecko. I picked Treecko once and could not beat the second gym!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by elveonora View Post
    Just play Emerald, it's the superior of the 3 and merges plots of Ruby and Sapphire together. For a starter, pick either Torchic or Mudkip, never choose grass-types as starters, save for few exceptions, they suck. Pure Grass-types have:
    * lots of weaknesses, few resistances, no immunity
    * plain move set
    * bad stat distribution
    * also Sceptile's signature move is Leaf Blade (a physical attack) despite the Pokemon having higher special attack

    For Swampert and Blaziken, Swampert is a great wall/tank while still having a very decent offense, while Blaziken has better offense but is more fragile. But in a battle, Swampert defeats Blaziken, so overall, the best Hoenn starter is Mudkip.
    I agree with this. Emerald I always saw as the best Pokemon game of the series. And as far as starters go, you can't go wrong as long as you do not pick Treecko. I picked Treecko once and could not beat the second gym!
    Alternatively, get Treecko, then get Taillow. As long as its at least Lv 13 (so it knows Wing Attack), it should be able to take care of Brawly's Pokémon fairly easily (even more so if you train it up to the same level as his team).

    Also worth noting is that, in Gen III, all Grass-type moves were Special, so Leaf Blade does work off of Sceptile's stronger stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverAura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by elveonora View Post
    Just play Emerald, it's the superior of the 3 and merges plots of Ruby and Sapphire together. For a starter, pick either Torchic or Mudkip, never choose grass-types as starters, save for few exceptions, they suck. Pure Grass-types have:
    * lots of weaknesses, few resistances, no immunity
    * plain move set
    * bad stat distribution
    * also Sceptile's signature move is Leaf Blade (a physical attack) despite the Pokemon having higher special attack

    For Swampert and Blaziken, Swampert is a great wall/tank while still having a very decent offense, while Blaziken has better offense but is more fragile. But in a battle, Swampert defeats Blaziken, so overall, the best Hoenn starter is Mudkip.
    I agree with this. Emerald I always saw as the best Pokemon game of the series. And as far as starters go, you can't go wrong as long as you do not pick Treecko. I picked Treecko once and could not beat the second gym!
    Alternatively, get Treecko, then get Taillow. As long as its at least Lv 13 (so it knows Wing Attack), it should be able to take care of Brawly's Pokémon fairly easily (even more so if you train it up to the same level as his team).

    Also worth noting is that, in Gen III, all Grass-type moves were Special, so Leaf Blade does work off of Sceptile's stronger stat.
    Actually, unless your Taillow is incredibly powerful, you'll need to get it to Brawly's levels. None of the Starters really fare well against Brawly's heavy hits, in my experience. Marshtomp might be best because he can handle them better, but overall it's best to have a Flying-Type to help with him.

    I'd like to mention that I've never had issues with Sceptile--at least, no more than I've had with any other starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RiverAura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by elveonora View Post
    Just play Emerald, it's the superior of the 3 and merges plots of Ruby and Sapphire together. For a starter, pick either Torchic or Mudkip, never choose grass-types as starters, save for few exceptions, they suck. Pure Grass-types have:
    * lots of weaknesses, few resistances, no immunity
    * plain move set
    * bad stat distribution
    * also Sceptile's signature move is Leaf Blade (a physical attack) despite the Pokemon having higher special attack

    For Swampert and Blaziken, Swampert is a great wall/tank while still having a very decent offense, while Blaziken has better offense but is more fragile. But in a battle, Swampert defeats Blaziken, so overall, the best Hoenn starter is Mudkip.
    I agree with this. Emerald I always saw as the best Pokemon game of the series. And as far as starters go, you can't go wrong as long as you do not pick Treecko. I picked Treecko once and could not beat the second gym!
    Alternatively, get Treecko, then get Taillow. As long as its at least Lv 13 (so it knows Wing Attack), it should be able to take care of Brawly's Pokémon fairly easily (even more so if you train it up to the same level as his team).

    Also worth noting is that, in Gen III, all Grass-type moves were Special, so Leaf Blade does work off of Sceptile's stronger stat.
    Actually, unless your Taillow is incredibly powerful, you'll need to get it to Brawly's levels. None of the Starters really fare well against Brawly's heavy hits, in my experience. Marshtomp might be best because he can handle them better, but overall it's best to have a Flying-Type to help with him.

    I'd like to mention that I've never had issues with Sceptile--at least, no more than I've had with any other starter.
    Well, I WAS a lot younger when I played the game with Treecko as my starter. Maybe I should try using him when ORAS come out.

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    Okay, so I have been doing some poking around on the internet looking for a good copy of Pokémon Red Version, for the Gameboy, or course. I had played all three of the Generation I games ad nauseam on my Gameboy, but I lost Red quite a few years back. While looking I noticed something different about some of the cartridges. Some of them, on the bottom-left of the label where it displays the ESRB Rating, or "The Big E" as I called it as a little kid, the E is solid black. But on other pictures of the cartidges, the big E is white with a black outline on it. In case this description is too vague, I have attached two pictures showing what I mean. My old Blue Version cartridge has the solid black E on it, and so does my Yellow. Can anyone tell me if the ones with the black outlines are fake, or a different variation of the cartridge?image.jpgimage.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Okay, so I have been doing some poking around on the internet looking for a good copy of Pokémon Red Version, for the Gameboy, or course. I had played all three of the Generation I games ad nauseam on my Gameboy, but I lost Red quite a few years back. While looking I noticed something different about some of the cartridges. Some of them, on the bottom-left of the label where it displays the ESRB Rating, or "The Big E" as I called it as a little kid, the E is solid black. But on other pictures of the cartidges, the big E is white with a black outline on it. In case this description is too vague, I have attached two pictures showing what I mean. My old Blue Version cartridge has the solid black E on it, and so does my Yellow. Can anyone tell me if the ones with the black outlines are fake, or a different variation of the cartridge?image.jpgimage.jpg
    So, the ESRB logos all used to look like the white with static-like black outline around it up until around 2000, when they were replaced by the solid-black-letter variant. Because of this, when Pokémon Red and Blue were first released in the U.S., they used the old static-outline version of the ESRB rating logo on their boxes and cartridges. My guess is that the production of the original games lasted long enough that they were still being produced when the new ESRB logos were introduced, so they carry the newer logo. The fact that you have old cartridges where this is the case seems to support this idea. So, to answer your question, no, the ones with the black-static-outline are not (necessarily) fake; they would just be older cartridges.

    With that being said, Pokémon Red and Blue cartridges are amazingly valuable, so they are very prone to being faked. I believe that there are other threads on the forum (or just online in general) that can help you figure out what to look for with real vs fake cartridges; you might want to ask them for further advice on seraching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ellron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RiverAura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by elveonora View Post
    Just play Emerald, it's the superior of the 3 and merges plots of Ruby and Sapphire together. For a starter, pick either Torchic or Mudkip, never choose grass-types as starters, save for few exceptions, they suck. Pure Grass-types have:
    * lots of weaknesses, few resistances, no immunity
    * plain move set
    * bad stat distribution
    * also Sceptile's signature move is Leaf Blade (a physical attack) despite the Pokemon having higher special attack

    For Swampert and Blaziken, Swampert is a great wall/tank while still having a very decent offense, while Blaziken has better offense but is more fragile. But in a battle, Swampert defeats Blaziken, so overall, the best Hoenn starter is Mudkip.
    I agree with this. Emerald I always saw as the best Pokemon game of the series. And as far as starters go, you can't go wrong as long as you do not pick Treecko. I picked Treecko once and could not beat the second gym!
    Alternatively, get Treecko, then get Taillow. As long as its at least Lv 13 (so it knows Wing Attack), it should be able to take care of Brawly's Pokémon fairly easily (even more so if you train it up to the same level as his team).

    Also worth noting is that, in Gen III, all Grass-type moves were Special, so Leaf Blade does work off of Sceptile's stronger stat.
    Actually, unless your Taillow is incredibly powerful, you'll need to get it to Brawly's levels. None of the Starters really fare well against Brawly's heavy hits, in my experience. Marshtomp might be best because he can handle them better, but overall it's best to have a Flying-Type to help with him.

    I'd like to mention that I've never had issues with Sceptile--at least, no more than I've had with any other starter.
    Well, I WAS a lot younger when I played the game with Treecko as my starter. Maybe I should try using him when ORAS come out.
    Of course, I'm a bit biased since Treecko is one of my favorite Pokemon ever xP It could be that I just don't notice his faults that much. Or I might have conveniently happened to have good 'Mons to back him up. I don't know :P

    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Okay, so I have been doing some poking around on the internet looking for a good copy of Pokémon Red Version, for the Gameboy, or course. I had played all three of the Generation I games ad nauseam on my Gameboy, but I lost Red quite a few years back. While looking I noticed something different about some of the cartridges. Some of them, on the bottom-left of the label where it displays the ESRB Rating, or "The Big E" as I called it as a little kid, the E is solid black. But on other pictures of the cartidges, the big E is white with a black outline on it. In case this description is too vague, I have attached two pictures showing what I mean. My old Blue Version cartridge has the solid black E on it, and so does my Yellow. Can anyone tell me if the ones with the black outlines are fake, or a different variation of the cartridge?image.jpgimage.jpg
    Well I know that I have two Yellow versions, one with the black 'E' and one with the white one. As far as I know, they're both completely legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverAura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Okay, so I have been doing some poking around on the internet looking for a good copy of Pokémon Red Version, for the Gameboy, or course. I had played all three of the Generation I games ad nauseam on my Gameboy, but I lost Red quite a few years back. While looking I noticed something different about some of the cartridges. Some of them, on the bottom-left of the label where it displays the ESRB Rating, or "The Big E" as I called it as a little kid, the E is solid black. But on other pictures of the cartidges, the big E is white with a black outline on it. In case this description is too vague, I have attached two pictures showing what I mean. My old Blue Version cartridge has the solid black E on it, and so does my Yellow. Can anyone tell me if the ones with the black outlines are fake, or a different variation of the cartridge?image.jpgimage.jpg
    So, the ESRB logos all used to look like the white with static-like black outline around it up until around 2000, when they were replaced by the solid-black-letter variant. Because of this, when Pokémon Red and Blue were first released in the U.S., they used the old static-outline version of the ESRB rating logo on their boxes and cartridges. My guess is that the production of the original games lasted long enough that they were still being produced when the new ESRB logos were introduced, so they carry the newer logo. The fact that you have old cartridges where this is the case seems to support this idea. So, to answer your question, no, the ones with the black-static-outline are not (necessarily) fake; they would just be older cartridges.

    With that being said, Pokémon Red and Blue cartridges are amazingly valuable, so they are very prone to being faked. I believe that there are other threads on the forum (or just online in general) that can help you figure out what to look for with real vs fake cartridges; you might want to ask them for further advice on seraching.
    Could you perhaps point me torwards a couple threads that could help identifying fakes? And also, when you say that the cartidges are valuable, about how valuable do you think they are? Because there are people online selling their old games for as low as 30 bucks, which I find highly suspicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RiverAura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Okay, so I have been doing some poking around on the internet looking for a good copy of Pokémon Red Version, for the Gameboy, or course. I had played all three of the Generation I games ad nauseam on my Gameboy, but I lost Red quite a few years back. While looking I noticed something different about some of the cartridges. Some of them, on the bottom-left of the label where it displays the ESRB Rating, or "The Big E" as I called it as a little kid, the E is solid black. But on other pictures of the cartidges, the big E is white with a black outline on it. In case this description is too vague, I have attached two pictures showing what I mean. My old Blue Version cartridge has the solid black E on it, and so does my Yellow. Can anyone tell me if the ones with the black outlines are fake, or a different variation of the cartridge?image.jpgimage.jpg
    So, the ESRB logos all used to look like the white with static-like black outline around it up until around 2000, when they were replaced by the solid-black-letter variant. Because of this, when Pokémon Red and Blue were first released in the U.S., they used the old static-outline version of the ESRB rating logo on their boxes and cartridges. My guess is that the production of the original games lasted long enough that they were still being produced when the new ESRB logos were introduced, so they carry the newer logo. The fact that you have old cartridges where this is the case seems to support this idea. So, to answer your question, no, the ones with the black-static-outline are not (necessarily) fake; they would just be older cartridges.

    With that being said, Pokémon Red and Blue cartridges are amazingly valuable, so they are very prone to being faked. I believe that there are other threads on the forum (or just online in general) that can help you figure out what to look for with real vs fake cartridges; you might want to ask them for further advice on seraching.
    Could you perhaps point me torwards a couple threads that could help identifying fakes? And also, when you say that the cartidges are valuable, about how valuable do you think they are? Because there are people online selling their old games for as low as 30 bucks, which I find highly suspicious.
    Well, I suppose it depends on used vs. new. For used, I could see it going that low (a videogame price guide has the average price set at $18-19, but I'm not sure how much I believe you'll actually find that price). New would go into the $100-200 range at least, but I'm assuming you don't really care about that. Worth noting though, is that depending on how much the used cartridges were played, you may also need to buy (and install) a new battery for them in order to actually play the games.

    Also, I must apologize, I was thinking of the "How to Spot a Bootleg" thread in the Toys and Collectibles Forum. I don't know if we have a "Bootleg Game" thread on here - anyone else know of one? I was able to find a more general one elsewhere online, so that might be able to help.

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    This is a slightly strange question, but I'm curious. Since there's 'Johto' location data in the coding of DPP (and presumably HGSS) that ended up going unused in those games, if a Pokemon was hacked to have it and migrated to Gen V, what would the location data read? I'd assume it'd revert back to 'Sinnoh' if the Pokemon was caught there, but I'd be interested to find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentyphlosion View Post
    This is a slightly strange question, but I'm curious. Since there's 'Johto' location data in the coding of DPP (and presumably HGSS) that ended up going unused in those games, if a Pokemon was hacked to have it and migrated to Gen V, what would the location data read? I'd assume it'd revert back to 'Sinnoh' if the Pokemon was caught there, but I'd be interested to find out.
    Why would it have to be hacked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greentyphlosion View Post
    This is a slightly strange question, but I'm curious. Since there's 'Johto' location data in the coding of DPP (and presumably HGSS) that ended up going unused in those games, if a Pokemon was hacked to have it and migrated to Gen V, what would the location data read? I'd assume it'd revert back to 'Sinnoh' if the Pokemon was caught there, but I'd be interested to find out.
    Why would it have to be hacked?
    Because Pokemon from HGSS don't display the location data 'Johto' in DPP: instead, they display 'Faraway Place'. Essentially, the 'Johto' location data in those games isn't used for anything, and can only be obtained by hacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greentyphlosion View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MegaJirachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greentyphlosion View Post
    This is a slightly strange question, but I'm curious. Since there's 'Johto' location data in the coding of DPP (and presumably HGSS) that ended up going unused in those games, if a Pokemon was hacked to have it and migrated to Gen V, what would the location data read? I'd assume it'd revert back to 'Sinnoh' if the Pokemon was caught there, but I'd be interested to find out.
    Why would it have to be hacked?
    Because Pokemon from HGSS don't display the location data 'Johto' in DPP: instead, they display 'Faraway Place'. Essentially, the 'Johto' location data in those games isn't used for anything, and can only be obtained by hacking.
    I see. I never noticed that it had a different location in Diamond and Pearl. I would try this out right now to answer your question if I had a cheating device.

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