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    Default Help me, please?

    I'm playing White 2 and I've just got the 8th badge and the rival and I have jut split up to look for Team Plasma. I've looked online and it says that to proceed, the Plasma Frigate is off of Seaside Cave-- BUT you need the Colress MCHN to get out there. I don't _have_ Colress MCHN because Colress and Terrakion don't appear when I enter Route 22 (as they should). The only thing that I can think might cause this is I beat both Route 22 and Seaside Cave before getting the gym badge to level grind.

    Is there anything I could possibly do other than just restarting the game to fix this?

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    Default Re: Help me, please?

    Did you try going to that spot where terakion and colress appear again? Or did you probably skip an in game event before they appear?
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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    I want to know if any Breeders out there could answer this for me.

    I have a male Lucario
    Jolly, Likes to Thrash
    IVs: 6, 7 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 16

    I also have a Female Lucario
    Jolly, Likes to Run
    IVs: 30 / 0, 1 / 28, 29 / 30 / 28, 29 / 30

    What is the Likely-hood of hatching a Riolu with
    Jolly, Likes to Thrash
    IVs: 30 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30

    And I've been using Power bracer and an everstone to get this far but their usefulness seamed to run out on me.
    The more I try to keep going any further with this, the more other stats keep dropping off.

    For example,
    Equipping the male with Power bracer and the Female with the Everstone gives me:
    Jolly, Likes to Thrash
    IVs: 30, 31 / 31 / 5 - 9 / 30 / 25, 27, 29 / 11, 13
    Last edited by TheCableGuy; 11th April 2013 at 09:59 AM.

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashkin13 View Post
    I'm playing White 2 and I've just got the 8th badge and the rival and I have jut split up to look for Team Plasma. I've looked online and it says that to proceed, the Plasma Frigate is off of Seaside Cave-- BUT you need the Colress MCHN to get out there. I don't _have_ Colress MCHN because Colress and Terrakion don't appear when I enter Route 22 (as they should). The only thing that I can think might cause this is I beat both Route 22 and Seaside Cave before getting the gym badge to level grind.

    Is there anything I could possibly do other than just restarting the game to fix this?
    1. Did you catch both the previous Musketeers, by any chance? Or at least Cobalion?

    2. Have you tried walking further into Route 22??

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    I didnt catch any of them and they all still appeared, including Terrakion. Its not a requirement in the story. Colress appeared and gave me the Colress MCHN like normal, are you sure you didnt skip anything in game? @Dashkin13;?
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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Celebi View Post
    I didnt catch any of them and they all still appeared, including Terrakion. Its not a requirement in the story. Colress appeared and gave me the Colress MCHN like normal, are you sure you didnt skip anything in game? @Dashkin13;?
    Hmm... then it does seem she may have skipped something...

    Got badge - split up with Hugh - but Colress should appear :/

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingmate View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingmate View Post
    Hey all,

    I'm planning on going back to gen 3, buying the games I don't have and a spare gba and completing the pokedex. I just have a few questions....

    1. Can I complete the pokedex at this point in time (or, how far can I get through it)?
    2. One of my games (leafgreen) is one of those fake ones where you can't migrate the pokemon to a gen 4 game. Does this mean I can't trade the pokemon to a gen 3 game as well?
    3. What about gen 4? Can I complete that pokedex now?
    1. You could, but it's not likely on a 3rd Gen game unless you exclude the event legendaries for Gen 3: Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys and Ho-Oh and Lugia. The events to get the items needed to reach them are long gone and you'd need a Gen 4 game and wifi to get them (and even then, to have seen them to search on the GTS for them, unless you get an out and out trade). Otherwise, yes, you should be able to get every other Pokemon so long as you have all of the games from Gen 3.

    2. It depends. Certainly, you can trade between Gen 3 games from your LeafGreen since the fakeness of it doesn't (usually) stop you from trades. The "depends" part comes from my own personal experience: my old Emerald was fake and, after so many uses, it just stopped being able to save. It said that the game stopped because it had no backup memory (regardless if I had a previous save or not) and then the save would be nulled. So long as your LeafGreen game still saves properly, you can trade Pokemon from it between Gen 3 games.

    3. Again, you could but it isn't likely. It IS more likely than Gen 3 (due to wifi and GTS), but still not that much higher due to the "having to see it to search for it" requirement. Out and out trades are easiest for these types of Pokemon and, again, most are event exclusives due to wifi events no longer being obtainable. As of now, these Pokemon are not obtainable in Gen 4 since they were events: Mew (unless you have My Pokemon Ranch for the Wii, where you can get a Mew by depositing 999 Pokemon into the game), Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus. You also won't be able to get Rotom's alternate formes unless you transfer to a Gen V game where they are freely available. I have excluded Regigigas from the list because he requires the other 3 Regis to be present to catch (there was an event to get him though), but you have that covered with your Gen 3 games. Manaphy can also be obtained with the Gen IV Pokemon Ranger games (there will be a certain point where you can receive a Manaphy egg which you can transfer to a Gen IV game, Phione is obtainable by breeding the hatched Manaphy). Again, so long as you transfer all of your Gen 3 Pokemon and get the events through trades, yes, you can complete it between all that you have.
    Does the game count you completing the dex if you don have those pokemon?
    Yes. You can get the diploma without getting Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Ho-Oh and Lugia for Gen 3. For Gen 4, you do not need Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Darkrai, Phione, Manaphy, Shaymin or Arceus. You do need Regigigas though. For Gen IV though, you need to see all of the Sinnoh Dex to get the National one. This is all possible in one game though, so long as you fight every trainer and see the opposing box legend for DP (in a book in Celestic Town, in Plat. you see both at Spear Pillar). For Platinum, Manaphy needs to be seen as well, also in a book (Backlot's Mansion).


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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingmate View Post
    Hey all,

    I'm planning on going back to gen 3, buying the games I don't have and a spare gba and completing the pokedex. I just have a few questions....

    1. Can I complete the pokedex at this point in time (or, how far can I get through it)?
    2. One of my games (leafgreen) is one of those fake ones where you can't migrate the pokemon to a gen 4 game. Does this mean I can't trade the pokemon to a gen 3 game as well?
    3. What about gen 4? Can I complete that pokedex now?
    GenIII is probably the hardest generation to complete the national dex on one game. This is because tonnes of Hoenn Pokémon are not available in FRLG, and tonnes of Kanto Pokémon are unavailable on RSE. Over 100 Pokémon are missing in any game, so that's a lot of trading. To make things easier, you could get Pokémon Box for the GameCube. It's basically a huge storage box (1500 Pokémon), which unlike Pokémon Ranch lets you withdraw Pokémon using anygame (after certain, but easy, requirements are met). You can upload a whole PC of Pokémon with one game and then download to another in less than 5mins if you chose to. It's a bit rare but surprisingly not that expensive.

    GenIII will give you the dipolma without needing Mew, Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi, Jirachi or Deoxys. The rest can be found the GBA games normally. With the exception of Mew and Deoxys these can still be obtained without trading.

    Lugia - Obtainable in the GameCube game Pokémon XD

    Ho-oh - Obtainable in the GameCube game Pokémon Colosseum. (Colosseum is recommended anyway - because it makes getting the Johto starters and Dogs a lot easier)

    Celebi - Obtainable from a bonus disk that came with the Japanese version of Pokémon Colosseum. Not only is the disk itself very expensive, but you also need:
    A Japanese copy of Colosseum and to have purified all the Pokémon
    A way to play Japanese GC games. Getting a Japanese Gamecube will be the "most legit" way of doing this, given that Nintendo doesn't like region changers but it also adds to the cost. If you have a Wii you can hack to get the Wii Homebrew channel, you can use that to change the region pretty easily
    Any Japanese GBA game (which will work on any Gameboy Advance as it's region free) - with the E4 beaten
    Once you've done all that you can trade the Celebi onto an English GenIII game. You can trade between GenIII games of different languages, but you can't Pal Park between games of different languages (the Celebi will be able to be Pal Parked to an English game so long as it's on an English game).
    The disk itself is quite expensive - I've periodically checked them on ebay over the years and this is relatively cheap, they used to be consistently more than double this.

    Jirachi - Two ways of doing this: The first is through a bonus disk that came with the American version of Colosseum, which is no way as expensive as the Japanese counterpart.
    You need a Ruby or Sapphire to get it and you don't need to be very far in Colosseum or RS, you basically just need to be able to trade in RS I believe.
    The second way is probably a bit easier considering you're from NZ, and that's the EU/AUS version of Pokémon Channel for the GameCube. You can download Jirachi to Ruby/Sapphire once you've beaten the E4 and you've beaten Channel. All copies of EU/AUS Channel gave a Jirachi, so it should be very easy to get your hands on.

    As for Mew and Deoxys, the only legit way would be to find someone who got them from an event and trade.

    As for GenIV: Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus are added to the list of Pokémon you don't need for the diploma. Ho-oh and Lugia are taken away in HGSS.
    Mew is now obtainable if you get Pokémon Ranch and deposit 999 Pokémon, at 250 you also get a Phione.
    Manaphy is obtainable from a special mission in the first ranger game when you put a password in, and can be bred for a Phione.
    Darkrai/Shaymin/Deoxys are also available from special ranger missions in later ranger games, however these were downloaded over wifi and not unlocked with a password. The downloads have finished now. Also the items that take you to where you can catch Darkrai/Shaymin in Platinum were released over wifi, but these downloads have also finished.

    I hope I haven't overloaded you with information :P
    Last edited by 1quacka1; 11th April 2013 at 01:44 PM.

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCableGuy View Post
    I want to know if any Breeders out there could answer this for me.

    I have a male Lucario
    Jolly, Likes to Thrash
    IVs: 6, 7 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 16

    I also have a Female Lucario
    Jolly, Likes to Run
    IVs: 30 / 0, 1 / 28, 29 / 30 / 28, 29 / 30

    What is the Likely-hood of hatching a Riolu with
    Jolly, Likes to Thrash
    IVs: 30 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30

    And I've been using Power bracer and an everstone to get this far but their usefulness seamed to run out on me.
    The more I try to keep going any further with this, the more other stats keep dropping off.

    For example,
    Equipping the male with Power bracer and the Female with the Everstone gives me:
    Jolly, Likes to Thrash
    IVs: 30, 31 / 31 / 5 - 9 / 30 / 25, 27, 29 / 11, 13
    A baby will get 3 IVs from its parents, and you're fixing the Attack IV with the Bracer, that leaves 2. You these to be defense/sp.att/sp.def to come from the male or sp.att/HP/speed from female. The other 3 are determined at random - I'm not sure if it's completely random because I know before Pt that they had a chance to be similar to the parents. Assuming the last 3 are random I make the chances to be ~0.0008%. You can improve this by having more 30s that overlap, if you manage to breed a female that has 30 in HP and St.Att and 30 in something else then using this to breed will increase your chances of the 2 stats that are passed on to be good. But you still have to get over the 0.003% chance of getting the 3 random stats correct

    ETA: I'm guessing the IVs are for hidden power (though why HP Fighting on a Lucario?). You can use this http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/HiddenPower.aspx to find acceptable IVs for hidden power of any power/type

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gen 5)

    Quote Originally Posted by 1quacka1 View Post
    A baby will get 3 IVs from its parents, and you're fixing the Attack IV with the Bracer, that leaves 2. You these to be defense/sp.att/sp.def to come from the male or sp.att/HP/speed from female. The other 3 are determined at random - I'm not sure if it's completely random because I know before Pt that they had a chance to be similar to the parents. Assuming the last 3 are random I make the chances to be ~0.0008%. You can improve this by having more 30s that overlap, if you manage to breed a female that has 30 in HP and St.Att and 30 in something else then using this to breed will increase your chances of the 2 stats that are passed on to be good. But you still have to get over the 0.003% chance of getting the 3 random stats correct

    ETA: I'm guessing the IVs are for hidden power (though why HP Fighting on a Lucario?). You can use this MetalKid's Gaming Resources - Pokemon - Calculators - Hidden Power to find acceptable IVs for hidden power of any power/type
    Actually, it's not for Hidden power. It's just an experiment to see how far I can push all my IVs.

    Started out, I was just trying to get a Jolly with decent HP, ATK, and Spd
    But then I started getting Riolus with a lot of 30s, but none of them in the right stats.
    So, I decided I was going to see if I could take those two Lucarios and get them as high as I could.

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    Default Pokemon White or Black 2?

    Is Pokemon Black 2 or White 2 worth getting? I played Pokemon White and was pretty disapointed with it. Are the sequels worth getting?

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    Default Re: Pokemon White or Black 2?

    It depends on what you were disappointed in with BW. For example, if you were disappointed in the storyline, well, don't get BW2. But if you were disappointed in the fact that BW, like the anime, pretended that nothing prior to Gen V happened, get BW2. You can catch a lot of the old favorites in the main storyline.

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    One is not simply disappointed by BW...

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    BW2 has a crappier story but the replay value is a billion times better than the first games.

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    Default Re: Simple Questions / Simple Answers (Gens 1-4)

    Alright guys, thanks for your help! I think I am going to go ahead with it, because I need something to do :)
    Thanks again!
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